Uk: If You Have Any Young Family Or Friends...

posted on November 6th, 2006, 11:25 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6106936.stm

This kind of **** makes me SICK to my ******* stomach... Why arnt all of these ***** dead and ******* buried!?

Anyone here with children or young family/friends got an opinion?

posted on November 6th, 2006, 11:44 pm

well my opinion is a simple one with all of this rubbish,

bring back capital punishment, anyone who gets lifes, should just be killed instead, peadophiles wether it is genetic or a mental thing should be on the last, that will free up room in prisons, and then u can stick people in for longer rather then sticking them out on bail...
parol shouldnt exist and prisons should have no luxuries and be totally cramped, the prisoners should have to clean their own mess, wipe up their own ****, and help to grow their own food, they should not be educated or rehabilitated...
and bring back corpral punishment to, if a kid miss behaves or beats someone up, forget youth offender prisons, striaght into the army for a couple of months on training and watch how when they get back they appreciate school... its already been proven by many shows things like corpral punishment work and capitla punishment would make the would be criminals not risk it and the major ones who would anyway get what they deserve and people in for minor charges not want to go there again cuz it was such a hard life... unluck now where its like a prison is more nicer then a hotel...
it would take a few years of it coming back for it to actually work properly but itwould get there cuz right now britian tried the going soft thing and it all got worse... sometimes its best to learn from our old ways

[8_of_11]

posted on November 7th, 2006, 2:54 am

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... And that's why I support anarchy... (above post)
Ayuh, here in America, it costs more to put someone to death than to incarcerate them for life (partly because the leading cause of death on death row is old age).
I dunno about Britain, but here in America prison life ain't the bee's knees, exactly. Unless you like getting... yeah, I'd get banned for saying that... nevermind.
The problem with corporal punishment is the few kids who are either psychotic enough or smart enough (in a disturbing way) to note that the only thing stopping them from hitting back is society.
Also, if you don't reform criminals, then why even bother incarcerating 'em? Might as well shoot 'em or just flog 'em all off to the streets again, 'cause they ain't gonna change. They might be a bit more terroristic in their crimes after that kind of prison life, true, but is that really a GOOD thing?
Final- I'm intensely creeped out by pedophiles, partly because insanity distresses me in general (it's a mental thing, after all. Power issues, and stuff). But, yeah, anarchist me doesn't really think that hooking them up to the 'lectric chair exactly solves anything. It doesn't stop the rest of them, or anything, just that one case. I will be honest, though; I have no idea as to what they could do to get through to pedophiles. Maybe a public awareness campaign, or teaching people that a swift kick to the crotch disables most men rather quickly? Y'know, fight rarely and fight dirty, that kind of thing?
I've no clue. All I know is that if a Republican wants to get elected all they have to do is say "Video Games are from hell and are pornographic" and "First offense pedophiles should get the death penalty" over here. And yeah, it constitutes as pedophilia over here if you're in your bathrobe while getting the newspaper, or are taking a leak and some kid walks in on you and is scarred for life. And yeah, it's true: Our justice system is screwed up enough to get convictions from those.

Yes, a Florida burglar did successfully sue a victim after he broke a leg on a chair or something. My friends all are planning to head down there and break some legs on millionares' estates.

EDIT: Oh, whoops... A UK only topic... heh. My points still stand, I hope. Maybe this is a bad time to say I liked V for Vendetta JK

posted on November 7th, 2006, 4:44 am

Well in my opinon its a sickness thay need to have medical help to resove the problom no amount of punishment will stop some one from doing some thing that thare body/mind tells tham to.

Its probly a gunetic mutation with resherch in the fucher thare will be a drug to stop it. For now what we can do is cimacal castration and we could star early intervinchon to stop it be for it befor it distroyes some ones world.

thare are 2 or 3 types of pedophila those how do it becuse of mintal disorders - ushaly brot on by being abused, and thare are those how have a gunetic mutation wich cant be fixed with ent thing right now exsept cimacule castration and monitering.

posted on November 7th, 2006, 11:41 am

What makes me so ******* angry, and it is complete and utter rage... is the fact that the government maintians its doing everything to protect the people, buts its more concerned with helping criminals get back on their feet... I wouldnt even think TWICE about killing every single paedophile... obviously the government doesnt think and just releases every single one so they can prey on the innocent and vulnerable. UTTER FAILURE TO PROTECT.

The incompetence of politicians makes them just as bad as the paedophiles, outdated opinions and a desire to try and keep everyone happy will drive this country to a worse point than its already at. PEOPLE die, and when people kill... why should they live, in comfort, until theyre released? (early, mind...)

**** the EU, **** everyone whos got an opinion outside of THIS nation, its time to give the people some JUSTICE, release all the paedophiles if u must, but do not DARE protect them or hide them, they have no rights, they have no morals, and therefore their deaths would be no worse than slicing carrot.

The government better set some examples in this country, before the people start doing it instead...

posted on November 7th, 2006, 4:33 pm

**** the EU, **** everyone whos got an opinion outside of THIS nation, its time to give the people some JUSTICE, release all the paedophiles if u must, but do not DARE protect them or hide them, they have no rights, they have no morals, and therefore their deaths would be no worse than slicing carrot.

LoL I have an opinion, but if I express it someone will f_uck me :s, khmmmmm

posted on November 9th, 2006, 12:30 pm

tatoo a big pedophyle sign across their forehead when they are released.

[Skitzeh]

posted on November 9th, 2006, 12:47 pm

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tatoo a big pedophyle sign across their forehead when they are released.

fan*******tastic idea!

btw didnt mean the whole **** everyone who has an opinion outside of the UK :s meant we need to stop conforming to european laws and ways...

we are NOT europe, although geographically we are, we do not hold european values.

[Anonymous]

posted on November 9th, 2006, 1:50 pm

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tatoo a big pedophyle sign across their forehead when they are released.

This was actually an idea of one of Slovenians most controversial politicans
I do kind of agree with this (it would be better if it was just a big letter P ) BUT society should first try and cure these people and then come to more drastic measures.

btw didnt mean the whole **** everyone who has an opinion outside of the UK :s meant we need to stop conforming to european laws and ways...

we are NOT europe, although geographically we are, we do not hold european values.

Gee thanx, I can express my opinion now
Of course your not Europe, your better than the rest of Europe right? You should be called gods by the rest of Europe, or rather make that the rest of the world. God d@mn this arrogant attitude pis$es me off man. As well as I know some of you brits, your OK guys. But please stop it with this arrogance :S
BTW what is so different about Europes and UKs values?

Now about the pedophyles:
I think that what they do leaves a HUGE scar on a kids personality for the rest of their lives. So how can u sufficiently punish a person who has done something as horrible as this? For starters I think the prison time for such crimes should increase DRASTICALLY, something similar should be done for rapes (although a little less than for pedophyles). There is also the issue that prisons nowadays are almost as comftrable as some cheap hotels. It actually once happened in Slovenia that the prisoners went on a hunger STRIKE because they thought that the prison they were in was NOT GOOD ENOUGH for them. Now such things I cannot believe. WTF ARE U STRIKING FOR, U R IN THE ****|NG PRISON FOR GODS SAKE. If I was to decide what to do with them, Id just leave them till they changed their minds and then wouldnt ****|ng give them any food for 3 more days.
Anyway, back to the issue at hand, with a prolonged prison time something must also be done to them that would also scar(personality) them and make the rest of the people know who they are. A big P on their foreheads would do the job just fine IMO. I am a fan of the "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" technique in law, its the greatest deterrant for crimes IMO. It seems that the ancient Mesopotamian king Hamurabi knew more about crime and punishment than the leaders today know :S

posted on November 9th, 2006, 2:50 pm

I am a fan of the "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" technique in law, its the greatest deterrant for crimes IMO.

completely agree with u there mate, people say its inhumane to adopt that policy... they mean that us punishing a paedophile that way is more inhumane than the crime he has committed? simply clueless.

there is no better way for a justice system to run than "an eye for an eye", there will always be crime, and therefore always need to be punishment, deluded and clueless politicians who believe you can mould the perfect world, where there are no crimes and everyone is happy, need to wake up and smell the ******* roses! it doesnt happen that way...

if a man rapes a child, he has NO rights, no right to live, no right to be hidden, to be cared for and NO RIGHT TO BE PROTECTED from the public... fathers and sons and ******* CARING HUMAN beings who want to kill him with their BARE ******* HANDS!

a paedophile is no better than an animal, therefore their treatment should be nothing less than that a violent animal would get... shoot the *******, every single one, because sooner or later the rational human beings on THIS ******* EARTH will take the law into our own hands, and the victims will not just be the sick ************* who are released early and allowed to reoffend, but will also be the politicians, judges, evil and heinous people who allowed the innocent to be put in danger OVER AND OVER again by not doing the RIGHT thing.

If someone says something mean to you, it takes you 140 muscles to frown, but only 3 to extend your arm and punch them in the face.

Similarly so...

It takes 30 years of campaigning to change the way your country is, but it only takes 30 minutes to get a gun and shoot the ******* causing the problem.

For these simple reasons, its imperative that the government goes in the right direction, otherwise those of us who feel so strongly will take steps to express ourselves in ways that neither we or the government wish to see, we have a responsibility to do the RIGHT thing to protect those we love, and those who will live after we're long gone.

posted on November 9th, 2006, 5:36 pm

On the subject of the government ******* it up, YET AGAIN!!! =) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/6133360.stm

takes real talent to do this, how about a public hanging?

******* PAEDOPHILES...

posted on November 9th, 2006, 10:19 pm

If someone says something mean to you, it takes you 140 muscles to frown, but only 3 to extend your arm and punch them in the face.

1st off, BS But even if it were true ir would still take more energy to punch someone plus u would risk injury in return

On the subject of the government ******* it up, YET AGAIN!!! =) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/6133360.stm

takes real talent to do this, how about a public hanging?

******* PAEDOPHILES...

Thats just sad... How can a court system be so unefficient :S. The jail time should be WAAAAAAYYYYY longer without the possibility or parol(or whatever its called). Stupid arses

posted on November 10th, 2006, 12:42 am

Why do british people like to not consider themselves Europe, mainly cuz of the pound and the fact we hate EU Human Rights, its because we are apart of the EU we cant do capital punishment anymore, and also its thanks to the EU if i remember correctly prisoners were given the right to vote.
the problem now adays in Britian is the justice system cares more about protecting the criminal then the victim,... for instance that women who protected ian huntley, thr guy who killed them two girls, she got plastic surgery, her whole identy changed, she has police guard, it cost something like 2 billion all in all to re invent her identy... and what about the parents of the two girls killed, what did they get? how can that wound ever be healed....
if a man rapes a women, he'll get what a few eyars, stuck in a special prison with other people like him so they can all brag together, when eh coems out he'l be given support to get back into wor, a hostel t stay in and so on... what about the girl who may not ever feel safe around men again, or not be able to ever go out again... the life thats ruined....

and as for peados, whether its genetic or mental, its not treatable and keeping them around is just a risk to society and children, it takes one peado to go too far to spoil a childs life forever and u want to keep them around cuz its genetic, no, they should just be hanged. rapists and murders to... why should they be, if people knew the punishment for killing someone or basically brings some life to such a ****** life death would of been better and inreturn they lost theres, they would be alot less likely to commit it, and by the wya its more expensive too keep someone in prison for life then to kill them, and all the luxuries in prisons need to go to, the food should eb ****, they should ebs quashed together and clena there ****...

about time we came down hard on criminals so they knew that life outside is better as a law abiding citerzen.

posted on November 10th, 2006, 12:53 am

nowt but 100% agreement mate, spot on.

and the 140 muscles thing is dead true and dont get technical its an example.

posted on November 10th, 2006, 1:52 am

you know how i would punish violent crimes(serial murderers, serial rapists, pedophyles)?
basically, whoaver destroys another mans life?
or those on capital punishment?

Look, just take about 3-4 hectares of land, soround it with a 8m high and 3m wide brick wall, and suround that with barbed wire and guard towers with machine guns, soround that with patrols, throw the bad guys in there all together, unsuporvised and throw in some food every once in a while, wonder how they would think once they realised the worlds doesn't give two craps about them. Let them kill eachother.
And if anyone tries to make a run for it, mow him down with those machine guns and throw him back in as a friendly reminder.

Once again this is meant for the realyl nasty people, those that cannot be brough back into society.
AND STOP WASTING THE ******* TAX PAYERS MONEY TO BUY THEM ******* CABLE TV AND GAMING CONSOLES FOR THEIR ******* COZY APPARTMENTS khhhmm....i mean cells.


just make it so that the guy thinks about what can ahppen and just doesn't do the crime, even where there's that tiny remote possibility that he gets cought.