Katrina

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posted on September 6th, 2005, 8:35 am
even if the citizens have been warned ...do u really think that a poor family leave a non assured home easier than a rich family an assured house and wait outside the affected area in a hotel until it´s over? Poor families would lose all of their existence and there have been so many hurricans and nothing happened all the years before.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 8:41 am
Nevertheless, in my eyes it´s sad that the american military can be present at two countries inbetween 24 h but cant help their own ppl in that time...they had to wait 5 fully days!!!! thats really sad.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 8:48 am
USA - I thought the strongest country in the world...But it seems that they even can't make fast moves to protect their own civil rights when the crisis comes...Whole USA administration and politic reaction is pathetic. They waited for 5 days to help them...arogant rich idiots...It would be realy interesting what would happen if Washington or Boston was stormed by Katrine, how fast would help come...Bush must go down after this.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 1:06 pm
Last edited by ewm90 on September 6th, 2005, 1:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
well i have herd meny pepal say "this is capitalisom at its werst". its not so much thay we cood not its that we did not. my god thare was a milatry ship in the golf of mexico that had over 1000 beds and a lorg medical section that is just siting thare up untill a day or 2 ago.

evin fadell castro has offered solgers to help with the desister haw sad is that.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 1:26 pm
i think castro's probably doing this to get the americans even more irrate. he probably knows that america isn't gonna let any other troops into the country, (probably not even british ones), so i think that offer is a wind-up
posted on September 6th, 2005, 1:39 pm
ya but the sad part is we need tham.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 3:42 pm
To our european friends: what you see in the US should be a warning to your own nations about the inability of large government bureaucracies to get anything accomplished in a timely manner. The same Navy that single-handedly saved hundreds of thousands of Indonesians from certain death was incapable of supporting an American city because of requirements to work through various federal agencies (FEMA, Red Cross, Northern Command, etc.) instead of taking decisive, independent action.

The complete lack of local leadership by the mayor and governor further complicated rescue efforts (reference the Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool). The lesson here gentlemen is if the sh*t really hits the fan, no one will save you or look out for you and your family except YOU. Not the government, police, military, whoever. They have more important things to do, like kill looters and rebuild infrastructure.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 4:30 pm
To our european friends: what you see in the US should be a warning to your own nations about the inability of large government bureaucracies to get anything accomplished in a timely manner. The same Navy that single-handedly saved hundreds of thousands of Indonesians from certain death was incapable of supporting an American city because of requirements to work through various federal agencies (FEMA, Red Cross, Northern Command, etc.) instead of taking decisive, independent action.

The complete lack of local leadership by the mayor and governor further complicated rescue efforts (reference the Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool). The lesson here gentlemen is if the sh*t really hits the fan, no one will save you or look out for you and your family except YOU. Not the government, police, military, whoever. They have more important things to do, like kill looters and rebuild infrastructure.

What you just said has also being used as a excuse of terrorism. Though I agree that the american inferstruture as about as effective as the adverage junior school council.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 5:14 pm
well we used tham as slaves we have a resposbulaty to get tham on thare feet.

No we did'nt, our generation had nothing to do with that, its like saying all Germans should pay for WW2 (come to think about it germany did'nt pay for WW2) or maybe the british should pay for taking over the world along with the romans???

whats done is done and as it was not done by us then we don't pay, how would you like it having to pay for a crime your grandfather commited?!
posted on September 6th, 2005, 5:17 pm
To our european friends: what you see in the US should be a warning to your own nations about the inability of large government bureaucracies to get anything accomplished in a timely manner. The same Navy that single-handedly saved hundreds of thousands of Indonesians from certain death was incapable of supporting an American city because of requirements to work through various federal agencies (FEMA, Red Cross, Northern Command, etc.) instead of taking decisive, independent action.

The complete lack of local leadership by the mayor and governor further complicated rescue efforts (reference the Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool). The lesson here gentlemen is if the sh*t really hits the fan, no one will save you or look out for you and your family except YOU. Not the government, police, military, whoever. They have more important things to do, like kill looters and rebuild infrastructure.

another reason why i don't like the idea of the eu, but thats more for the pol thread.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 5:33 pm
Last edited by ewm90 on September 6th, 2005, 8:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
No we did'nt, our generation had nothing to do with that, its like saying all Germans should pay for WW2 (come to think about it germany did'nt pay for WW2) or maybe the british should pay for taking over the world along with the romans???

whats done is done  and as it was not done by us then we don't pay, how would you like it having to pay for a crime your grandfather commited?!

what i am confested... germany?

what i am saying is meny of the black pepal in the herican hit state are the grate grate grate grate sons of slaves. when you are born in to perverty its hard to get out in america. we have a resposbulty to pay to tham for the state thay are in.

we are in big part resposabule to help tham not only be cuss of thare grate grate grand fother being used as slave but be cuss thay are americans and deserve the same opertonity that the american midal class has.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 8:44 pm
I'm not payin tax dollars to people who had plenty of time to get out of the way of this hurricane on the grounds that it's somehow the white mans fault. I WILL pay taxes and donate to charity to help the people who lost all their stuff and couldn't afford insurance.

I knew this would turn into another political thread, I just knew it, and were back to america bashing.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 8:46 pm
its cheeper to get the pepal out of the citty than have to baby sit tham while cleen off the rods of ded bodys to do it after werds.

i am not america bashing. i am ponting out the probloms that led to the desater of herican Katrina.
posted on September 6th, 2005, 8:55 pm
Of course it is...unless they don't have transportation...

I was mainly refering to the people who were america bashing, but you should be ashamed of yourself for starting it, and making a third forum scourge.
posted on September 7th, 2005, 1:46 am
i will not be ashamed for tolking about proboms in the usa and tring to find slutions i have dun nuthing rong to be ashamed about.

i shood be comined for bring atinchon to the problom cosed by the herican and geting pepal to make donations.


thare is a difrants be tween toling about probloms and amrican bashing thare has ben verly lital of that in this thred if eany. this tread is about a lorg desater that wen haribly rong from the start.
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