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posted on January 4th, 2005, 3:14 am
how r u beeng ignored....
posted on January 4th, 2005, 3:21 am
Last edited by ewm90 on January 4th, 2005, 3:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
he has not lisaned to the needs of the dimacratic party at all i and most dimacrates feel. he hass compleet controle of all braches of goverment and duss not lison to the dimacrate minority.
and dispite the overwelming negitvaty tords the war he still suports it.
he ignores the fact that all most evry one things he to findy with corpations. and heeps on leting the comapanys have close dore meedings with the goverment.
he ignores the fact that some pepale dont like vowe on religon that he has and what he duss with his vowes.
he ingnored the Iraq war protest in dc with recerd nubers of pepal.
and dispite the overwelming negitvaty tords the war he still suports it.
he ignores the fact that all most evry one things he to findy with corpations. and heeps on leting the comapanys have close dore meedings with the goverment.
he ignores the fact that some pepale dont like vowe on religon that he has and what he duss with his vowes.
he ingnored the Iraq war protest in dc with recerd nubers of pepal.
posted on January 4th, 2005, 7:05 am
I don't EVER think things have changed when theres been a protest. Hint hint, vietnam, it did end eventually but we were there for some 8 or more years, of course that didn't necessarily be because of the protesters.
If the president doesn't apologize for something that wasen't his fault, thats his problem. As I have said time and time and time again, it was the Iraqi scientists that gave false information to the CIA and thats a fact. So stop saying it was him, he acted on what he was told was an imminant threat.
If you want the war to end quicker, join the military, or offer them support. Hearing about people protesting in a war your fighting in can't be too good for moral.
Also, when you said there was a record number of people at the protest, that might be attributed to the higher population then the last one or the fact war hasen't been protested in this country for 30+ years.
If the president doesn't apologize for something that wasen't his fault, thats his problem. As I have said time and time and time again, it was the Iraqi scientists that gave false information to the CIA and thats a fact. So stop saying it was him, he acted on what he was told was an imminant threat.
If you want the war to end quicker, join the military, or offer them support. Hearing about people protesting in a war your fighting in can't be too good for moral.
Also, when you said there was a record number of people at the protest, that might be attributed to the higher population then the last one or the fact war hasen't been protested in this country for 30+ years.
posted on January 4th, 2005, 2:44 pm
1. in vehitnome id dnot chage the war but it infowised it and help come to the disition of chage. and in the ukrane the hole politacal stucker was chaged.
2. thats you opin and i respect it. but i allso dissagreey it he is the contnder and cheef of the milatary he has the last call. and disided to go a hed with the war dispite the anger over that disition. and he boched it up.
3. thaks for the offer but no thanks i wont to live longer.
4. the contry is all wase haveing protests that the nacher of this contry.
2. thats you opin and i respect it. but i allso dissagreey it he is the contnder and cheef of the milatary he has the last call. and disided to go a hed with the war dispite the anger over that disition. and he boched it up.
3. thaks for the offer but no thanks i wont to live longer.
4. the contry is all wase haveing protests that the nacher of this contry.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 3:04 am
1. Vietnam might have been shaped by protests but I think they only played a minor roll. Well when like 5 million people start a protest, people listen a little more.
2. What exactly did he botch up? Militarily he did nearly everything right except for the lack of extra troops to keep the peace. The war in Iraq should be a textbook of how war should be conducted in the future. It was alot more bloodless to them and especially to us because of the use of propaganda.
3. Chances are about 1,000 to one that you would be killed in Iraq as a foot soldier. Then there are about 500 differant things you can do in the military besides being a foot soldier. Plus i'd rather die with a Car-15 in my hand then someone old who didn't join the military when his country needed him.
4. I said war protests, because for the most part those are the biggest. Do you realise an important fact about this country? This countries feelings about war have a checks and balances system, whenever we have war there are protests by thousands of pacifists, and also many people who support the war completely. It's always been like that and it's an odd thing how this country can litteraly be split down the middle but still function as a country.
2. What exactly did he botch up? Militarily he did nearly everything right except for the lack of extra troops to keep the peace. The war in Iraq should be a textbook of how war should be conducted in the future. It was alot more bloodless to them and especially to us because of the use of propaganda.
3. Chances are about 1,000 to one that you would be killed in Iraq as a foot soldier. Then there are about 500 differant things you can do in the military besides being a foot soldier. Plus i'd rather die with a Car-15 in my hand then someone old who didn't join the military when his country needed him.
4. I said war protests, because for the most part those are the biggest. Do you realise an important fact about this country? This countries feelings about war have a checks and balances system, whenever we have war there are protests by thousands of pacifists, and also many people who support the war completely. It's always been like that and it's an odd thing how this country can litteraly be split down the middle but still function as a country.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 4:27 am
no comment, just felt like adding my 0.5 cents
posted on January 5th, 2005, 5:03 am
1. i think it was a bit more than a mimer role. but with some one like dick in the white house i am serpised that did as much as thay did.
2. well i dont igone the milatary like if take a sertin tipe and that atni me i dont injoe kiling.
3. well he did not bring peace keepers in. it was a perimtive war wich was un popler he need to get suport in a amica ferst. he heed the harts and mines BEFOR HE INVATED not after. he spint so much bludy munny and and we still dont have what we need. he atacted the rong contrey. and naw the contriy is in kaose i think you can say easly.
4.dont tolk to me about checks and balances system the repulicans controle like 80% of the goverment thare are no checks and balances.
2. well i dont igone the milatary like if take a sertin tipe and that atni me i dont injoe kiling.
3. well he did not bring peace keepers in. it was a perimtive war wich was un popler he need to get suport in a amica ferst. he heed the harts and mines BEFOR HE INVATED not after. he spint so much bludy munny and and we still dont have what we need. he atacted the rong contrey. and naw the contriy is in kaose i think you can say easly.
4.dont tolk to me about checks and balances system the repulicans controle like 80% of the goverment thare are no checks and balances.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 9:48 am
The only thing I got to say is to number 4, I find it funny because the republicans do control 80% of the government. Haha, eat it. No more talky about politics because this is turning into another waste of my time.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 1:12 pm
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thay controle 3 of the 3 branches of goverment. and thay are about to have a nuff juges to pass eny thing thay wont.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 5:18 pm
4.dont tolk to me about checks and balances system the repulicans controle like 80% of the goverment thare are no checks and balances.
thee are checks and balences.....the republican ones....
posted on January 5th, 2005, 6:40 pm
but if the republican party was crupt what cood eny one do?
thays whay we have a 2 partys styom thats spoded to have 2 difrant vowes.
for instants thats what the sival war was over the govermant be can crupt and than split dawn the midal.
but if we have 2 partys and it makes sher one party duss not forse the uther party exspet thare vowes tat thay mite not agree with.
but in the goverment to day one parttys hass all the pawer and the uther party has very lital.
thays whay we have a 2 partys styom thats spoded to have 2 difrant vowes.
for instants thats what the sival war was over the govermant be can crupt and than split dawn the midal.
but if we have 2 partys and it makes sher one party duss not forse the uther party exspet thare vowes tat thay mite not agree with.
but in the goverment to day one parttys hass all the pawer and the uther party has very lital.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 8:28 pm
The republicans control all, the republicans pwn j00. I agree with you completely ewm, they control all and nothing you can do about it, except an armed uprising, but then again your a pacifist, resistance is futile.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 8:56 pm
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we will see about that. it mite take time but will will take back some of the goverment. and make it fare agin.
the dimacrats have nuting to loss the repulicans have evry thing to loss.
the dimacrats have nuting to loss the repulicans have evry thing to loss.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 9:22 pm
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ewm90 and Lumpybob, I'm shocked that such opinions are made, even by some pacifist kids with no knowledge of history. You should really think next time, or even re-evaluate your opinions on the world itself. If You think that military strenght is not needed to keep your silly protest possible then take a look at first history book. I personnally think, and no offence here please, that only in America such stupidity is possible. US SOIL has never really been bombarded, attacked, or occupied (not counting here islands on Pacyfic) by any hostile force. You have no idea what a 50 years of red occupation can do to a society - what every occupaton is doing to vital forces within the people. The war in Iraq is about that. We can argue if Oil has something to do it, or no. We can argue about anything else, but one thing is for sure - maybe not now, maybe not in 20 years, but in not so distant future the ppl of Iraq (this plain simple ppl, who only wish to have the right to speak freely - like you are doing ewm90) will be greatfull for the sacrifice of some brave soldiers from your country. Now in Iraq the plane ppl are not fighting with your soldiers. With your soldiers fight criminals, bustards who want to take some power for themselfs and know that it won't be possibble with real democracy in Iraq, and all other kind of scumm. If someone is offending the memory of those soldiers who fight in Iraq and have died or will in near future, it's not president Bush. It's people like You. The people like You spitted on soldiers returning home from Korea and later Vietnam - on the soldiers who answered to call of duty, and gave their health for freeworld. In Russia there's been some good saying - there is no difference beetween US democracy and Soviet democracy - both people can go to the US embassy and shout that America sucks...
You can be a pacyfist, but at your own yard. In real world the only guarantie that my country will not fall again before Russia in next 50 years is military force of US - which will send to hell all agreesors that attack a member of NATO. Personnaly - i'm very proud of Your president - mr. Bush. His action is a guarantie, that US will defend democracy worlwide - the same as thruoght history.
You can be a pacyfist, but at your own yard. In real world the only guarantie that my country will not fall again before Russia in next 50 years is military force of US - which will send to hell all agreesors that attack a member of NATO. Personnaly - i'm very proud of Your president - mr. Bush. His action is a guarantie, that US will defend democracy worlwide - the same as thruoght history.
posted on January 5th, 2005, 11:22 pm
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well i am 24 Dont call me a kid and i have very good nolege of what i am toking about thank you. you only one year older than me.
i have dibates with my repulican find how is my ages and a ploitacal mager.
my dad was in WW2 joned the forin sevise has ben evry wher in the world all most. and i have lernd from him about haw the goverment works. i respect the solgers that give thare live for what some think is saving this contry in iraq but is realy being fot for uther resons. hevin my repulican frind agrees with me on that.
i have dibates with my repulican find how is my ages and a ploitacal mager.
my dad was in WW2 joned the forin sevise has ben evry wher in the world all most. and i have lernd from him about haw the goverment works. i respect the solgers that give thare live for what some think is saving this contry in iraq but is realy being fot for uther resons. hevin my repulican frind agrees with me on that.
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