GUNS!

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 9:56 am

i think what ewm was trying to say about the knives, was that there are far more uses for a knife than a gun. thats why knifes are freely sold as tools rather than weapons (yes i know there are instances of them being called weapons by those who sell them) with a gun they are sold as nothing more than a weapon. guns are tools but they are tools of a single purpose, when invented they were meant as nothing else but a means to kill. a knife im betting was invented for more practical uses but it was probably found to be just as effective a weapon as it was an everyday tool. bottom line: no guns, you dont need them.

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 3:10 pm

thank you Cpt Ryan.

thats persily what i am saying. knifes arnt weponds unless used as such guns will all ways be weponds no mater how thay are used.

the less weponds that are avlibal to those who mite miss used tham the beter of we all are.

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Timothy Koppos

Killed by gun date at age 12

Timothy Koppos was everyones friend. He had a sunny outlook on life and made people laugh. He enjoyed life like other twelve year olds. He played Nintendo, enjoyed riding his bike, collected Pokemon cards and loved to read Harry Potter books. His favorite animal was a wolf. He watched cartoons and professional wrestling and he loved to camp and fish even if he didn't catch one! He listened to Beach Boys music and other oldies, but he also liked Eminem. Most of all, Timmy liked helping other people. He wanted to grow up to be like his dad: a professional mover. He loved working with working crews and wearing his "Starving Students" t-shirt. He was the kid who was up for anything and he made everyone glad to see him.

Written by Timmy's father, Robert Koppos

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posted on January 3rd, 2006, 4:44 pm

btw sop posting those deaths, i mean come on, there are just as most deaths with other weaposn as with guns, but you just picking out the most shocking ones. they are just normal people that were just murder victimes, i can show you alot of docter death victims that have died or people who died by being poisoned.

and let see where the guns comes from, basically it was derived from the bow and arrow that was used in war and for hunting. and rockets must be plain evil aswell. i mean they only bring death and destruction but without it we douldn't go to the moon. ( unless some people believe that is a hoax). guns are now only used for war, but back in the old days also was a sport and for hunting even now, guns are needed to keep certain types of animals controlled populated (and that is not an evil thing)


and besides guns aren't evil it's the people they use it. you don't blame the plane for crashing into WTC, you blame the person who did it. same with a murder with a gun. you don't blame the gun, but the person. normal people don't play with electricity, but if someone died by putting his tongue or a fork in a socket and died you don't blame electricity.

[ewm90]

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 5:24 pm

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do thay bother you roach? thay bother me two thats why i am posting tham to make a pont. eny ones deth is shocking to me no one more than kids.

thare are far more deths with guns than eny uther inchanal way. look at contrys like the UK that limet gun use look at thare merder rates.

yeas the pepal how use thare are the ones how are rong. but why in the world would we make a wepond that lets tham to it faster and beater. thare is no reson pepal use have guns unless thay are part of the milatry, law informent, or hunting.

Guns in the hands of the gunral puplic is has no exsuse and is just plan rong.

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Fatisha Pettus

Killed by gun April 7, 1998, at age 21


Fatisha Pettus was 21-years old and the only child for her mother. She was a licensed vocational nurse, working for Tender Loving Care, home hospice patients which she loved dearly. She was with 349th General Hospital Company Army Reserve.

She was studying to be a Registered Nurse at Southwest College. She took the Long Beach Police test and passed, and was waiting for the background check when she died.

She enjoyed working with children. She loved her family and friends dearly. She loved comics, dancing, vacationing, movies, shopping for bargains and eating out with co-workers.

By Rubie Ridgeway, Mother

http://www.wagv.org/pett.htm

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 6:45 pm

man, you sound just like CNN at any major disater, they shift through all the worse cases and just pick the worse off person just to get the best response out of the vieuwers. it's like a blooddy jerry springer show. should i start showing all the children in basran that died in the school by tsjechen( or how you spell it) terrorist. because explosive are bad and think of all the children that died. it so hypocritical with all your posts.


but i might not be right there.

there shouldn't be a right to have a gun but there is one. and it doesn't even make a differance becayse if someoen wants to kill a person seriously, he would get a gun without going to a legal store or do it in another form. you won't remove all the murders with it, only less accidents with it. people will find ways to kill a person if they want them dead. can't stop that.

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 7:07 pm

I have heard about the debate of weapons on this site and thought that I should exercise my right to free speach as well as my 2nd amendment right to "own and bear arms".

The founders of our great country knew that the rights of the people could not be protected unless the government had limited power and the people could defend thier right.

For people to say that guns are not necessary today dont know the facts. The sale of guns has risen in the past decade and the national crime rate has decreased for the past 13 consecutive years!! This is not because people are becoming less corrupt. It is also not because of the number of police on the streets. It is because people are not going to let crime scare them.

The time to buy guns is now when there is peace and it is not illegal. That way, when the time arises to fight for the existance of our country due to foreign invaders or liberal presidents we will have the necessary firepower to defend ourselves.

So buy up all the assault rifles and 30 round magazines you can now before more restrictive laws are made.

Long live America and the PRESIDENT BUSH!!


:tank: :2guns: GUNS FOREVER :2guns: :tank:

[ewm90]

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 9:07 pm

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crime has descreasted be cuss of tecnolgy and inprovments to law inforsment. guns help crime guns dont stop crime if in the hands of the junaral population. we have all ways had guns Dirty Harry if you argument was truw crime would not need to descres if guns where the ansser.



gun crimes have not decersted at all. Gun crime have incresed.

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 9:29 pm

I would like to know what sources you are getting your information from because I have not seen the information listed anywhere.

Please also proofread your post so it is easier to read. I had a little trouble deciphering what you wrote. I had to have my pet chicken translate. He knows "scratch".

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 9:58 pm

i have dyslexia.

tiying to fixs stuff i say is offin more trubal than it is worth.

evindents

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2640817.stm

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/WhosCount...id=98678&page=1

you have to be care full whare you get your info thares alot of cruption and opinons in mey news reports. looks at astabilshed meda soreses with repudabule and fare reporting.

if what you wheer saying more guns meen less crime iraq should be the most peace full place on earth right?

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 10:05 pm

there really is no need to be offensive

im sure when knifes were first invented, knife crime went through the roof , but as we know guns have been around for some time now and i know that here in the UK gun crime is going up. the more people who own guns there are, the more people there are who will want to "try 'em out". You never been tempted to try out your gun?. i can honestly say that i have been tempted to take my swords to people i dislike, so its only natural that if you have the power to do something you will do it.

[ewm90]

posted on January 3rd, 2006, 10:41 pm

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offensive? hows being offensive?

i shere when knifes where out it was a problom arwond that time thare is evadents that a hole race of smaller hummins where wiped out.

i hope if what i am reading from you Cpt Ryan is right?

the more people who own guns there are, the more people there are who will want to "try 'em out".

god i hope thats not truw WE ARE DOOMED lol.

but serisly.
guns are the most lethal and easy to use wepond ever invinted. if used inproperly wich evanitbaly it will can be a mager problom one man with a gun can kill larg nubers of pepal with out thinking about it to hard.

posted on January 4th, 2006, 12:29 am

mabye we should just take more care in choosing who to issue firearm liscences to.

posted on January 4th, 2006, 3:14 am

that would be a start. all so adding hevy restiction of what kinds of guns can be ishowed many hunting rifals and a cupal of small hand guns to the gunaral puplic eny thing else is crasy to me.

makeing the linth of a lisent gratly shorter reqiring more frinqint renowing of lisents.

making it ilegal to own a fier arm with out a triger lock. limiting the amont of bulits that a clip or gun can hold to 6 whood be a good idea.

all hand guns sold must have a traking devise inplanted in it all so ading if the devise is reoved the gun will not work. it will incress the price of he gun wich is ok to me we dont wont to make thes thing afordabule.

posted on January 4th, 2006, 2:18 pm

You have to be careful where you get the information from I agree. I read somewhere recently (dont remeber the magazine) , but Mike Wallace was recently seen at a pro-Brady Law reception where he spoke against guns and wrote the hosting foundation a check.

I do not believe that people who openly show biases should be allowed to be reporters and news anchors. We already get so much twisted material through many of the news agencies that we do not need the "stars" form the network going out and endorsing the subjects that come up on a regular basis either for good or for bad.

ewm90's article from BBC remided me, I was only speaking of crime rates in the United States. Maybe the crime has risen in England and I am sorry form not specifying my region of debate.

Also, the process of getting a gun permit in the US is not an easy process (atleast in Connecticut but I believe that it is the same or very similiar in all states). You must attend a firearms safety class from a certified instructor that the state can sit in and watch whenever they want too. He must demonstrate and have the students replicate the proper procedures for firearm safety or he cannot sign off on thier certificate. The applicant must then go through SEVERAL background checks and cannot have commited a major felony. The applicant must also submit 3 character refereneces that have know him/her within the last 10 years. Then there is about a 3 month waiting period.

Not easy for sure.

posted on January 4th, 2006, 3:20 pm

but we keep hearing about kids with mass collections of the most dedly guns in the world in thare bed rooms some thing is not working.

thare are guns for sale in the USA that are more powerfule than the mitatry and law informent use that can shoot thow 5 inch - 6 inch armr.

thare are guns for saile that have a nuff builts in tham to take out crowds of pepal with out reloding.

you can buy bulits that brake in to shrapnel makeing the recovery of a person how gets shot very unlikly. we have bulits that expoled on impact. thare are bulits that are desined to go thow bulit proof armer like the cops whare. thare are bulits that do all kinds of nasty stuff.

i have herd reports of forin armys or militants coming to amrica to buy arms that are not avilbal at such cheap prise eny whare elss thay clame.

This is totally unexsepibale to me. America is the a land of peace not a huge gun store.