Graviton Torpedo Counter (Roll Playing Thread)

posted on March 31st, 2011, 2:14 am

Well I'm just saying, down with these Tereanans they are dicks killing everyone for no reason

posted on March 31st, 2011, 2:40 am

Well I'm just saying, down with these Tereanans they are dicks killing everyone for no reason

Yes, TCR does seem to play them as being a fairly touhcy and hostile group. I'm not sure I agree with that either, but that's how he's playing them.

its possible but it would make facing the borg as fed (atleast) to be overkill and impossible for the borg to win (the only decent beam fire ships are teh scout cube and sphere (i didnt count a big cube as its normaly fitted for max torp damage)    and even then they dont do much in the way of damage (regen scubes do ok i suppose but vs intreps/e2s it would be impossible for the borg to win  so i doubt it would be put ingame (even if it was a special weapon on certain ships plays just spam them ships and win no matter how slight the bonus vs the torps are)  also if it cant be done as special weapon it would be a replace weapon which as we all know is a pain in the ass with auto targeting and manual target calling on ur ships as they basicly canncel the current attack and hit sommit else

so unless the devs can balance it perfectly and fix replace weapon bugs then i would have to say no chance atm

As a passive, and assuming it was balanced correctly it might work. You would probably have to make it have a percentage to fail, maybe in the range 20-40%, and limit it to larger ships.

posted on March 31st, 2011, 4:38 am

I can't believe that the Federation would even put up with a group that is so hostile, I mean wouldn't they want to put sanctions or at least try to stop trade with a group like that? The Federation usually tries to save lives, they even don't want borg to die

posted on March 31st, 2011, 6:15 am

they even don't want borg to die

I dunno, Janeway killed like a trillion Borg when she destroyed the Unimatrix and they promoted her to Admiral.........although that could just have been so she didn't turn her wrath on them I suppose...

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posted on March 31st, 2011, 1:22 pm

Last edited by Anonymous on March 31st, 2011, 1:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

What are you complaining about, the fact that the Tereanans engaged and destroyed a large Trakan fleet or the fact that 2 Zaggepian ships were destroyed by the Tereanans during that last battle with the Borg?

In another threat, the Trakans provoked the Tereanans to war by attacking a Tereanan station.  In this thread, the Zaggepians admitted to attacking a Federation station as an allied test.  Then later headed straight for a Tereanan station.  When the Tereanan fleet arrived to attack the Borg, the Zaggepians proceeded to use their Omega weapon.  And that's when the Mountshining destroyed one ship and disabled the other.

PS:  The antimatter surge through the comm channel was intended for the Borg, the Zaggepians had an open channel to the Mountshining as well so they were also hit by the surge, but the Zaggepian ship was an accident.  That ship escaped battle.  I'm not sure if it was the fact that the Tereanans did not withdraw from the battle or the fact that one of their ships were disabled by the use of the comm system that provoked them to use the Omega weapon.  They were probably going to try to use it anyways against the Borg and the Tereanans got in the way.

posted on March 31st, 2011, 3:30 pm

@blazing: I think it was the uni matrix zero one episodes where Janeway gets all sad and crying because the queen kept blowing up cubes.

Ok, TCR that doesn't change that they are creating dozens of black holes all over the place and are super aggressive towards everyone

posted on March 31st, 2011, 3:41 pm

Even the Queen once mentioned Janeway preferring not to kill Drones if possible, as any life is a loss.

posted on March 31st, 2011, 3:53 pm

And here I thought Voyager nerfed the borg, but these TCR guys totally nerfed the borg

posted on March 31st, 2011, 3:54 pm

This thread reads like an EA game storyline. Take off every ZIG ROFLCOPTER!

posted on March 31st, 2011, 5:07 pm

for great justice! someone set up us the omega bomb.

these terrenanians are just like tcr's ship designs, ridiculous god ships and very op. they have almost every weapon and tech imaginable.

they are apparantly humans that left earth/fed long ago, yet have larger territory than the feds, more ships, higher tech level, ships bigger than the borg, chroniton torps (sounds krenim), really strong shields, hundreds of power cores per ship, singularity torps (that may or may not work via black holes, if they dont then singularity would be a misleading name), the ability to disable borg ships over something as low power as a video comm link using some technocrap antimatter surge (how antimatter can travel along a comm signal i dont know ), transwarp (sounds borg, they even operate battle cubes :p ), neutronium armour that is invulernable to normal gunz (sounds iconian), bloody good cloaks (sounds romulan), subspace cloaks (puts you in subspace?), good cloak detect, and a gamma gun that kills all organic material (sounds like thalaron). the only thing they dont have is omega, and why they dont have omega is beyond me, tcr is willing to give them everything else but the kitchen sink, why not omega?

tcr didnt nerf the borg, his terranites are just ridiculously op.

posted on March 31st, 2011, 5:26 pm

Singularity doesn't always mean "black hole."  The pathfinder project created a singularity and that caused a wormhole.  A quantum singularity opened up a door way into the realm of Species 8472.  Romulan engine cores use artificial singularities to power their warp drives.

There is only one instance where a singularity was referred to as a black hole.  To create a black hole from Tereanan singularity technology, you would need something like 500 power cores all going off at once.  One power core has about the same yield as 10 singularity torpedoes.  And the Tereanans use subspace fields to prevent singularity explosions from being too powerful.

During the Tereanan-Breen war, the Breen energy dampener shut down several of these fields on a Mountshining III Class starship.  The ship was destroyed when the primary containment field went offline.  Had the subspace field remained online with the primary containment field went down, the subspace field would have restricted the size of the explosion.  But as a result of the subspace fields being down, and with the 240 power cores and about 20 singularity torpedoes, the resulting explosion decimated everything within 0.7 light-years of the battle.

The Tereanan Empire won't start a war without proper cause.  Messing with an ally or messing with the Tereanans is cause enough.  The Tereanan Empire does not mess around with those who threaten it or its allies.  Those who mess with the Tereanans or their allies are warned before any war is declared to stop doing what they are doing.  I think that the warning is pretty generous.  The Federation messes around with those that threaten it, the Tereanans do not.

The Borg have not been nerfed by the Tereanans.  Due to several engagements with the Borg in the 23rd century, the Tereanans have been able to use modified Borg technology against the Borg.  The technology has been modified so much that it can't be compared to Borg technology, but the origins are the same.  Whenever a Tereanan ship is being assimilated, that technology is destroyed automatically.  As well as the ship.  Tereanan ships also have a virus onboard that should the vessels be assimilated, the virus will start erasing tactical data accumulated by the Borg.  That virus is usually stopped quickly by the Borg, but not before several vessels are affected.

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The Tereanans actually do have Omega technology.  But if you want to get to it, you'll have to go through a field of turrets so dense it'll one-shot a black hole.  Okay, that's an exaggeration, but you get the picture.  The Federation doesn't know about this technology.  All they know is that there is a restricted area that'll even fire upon a Tereanan ship if it tries to enter without proper authorization.

Subspace cloak pulls the ship into subspace.  Evading everything except for a subspace tachyon scan.  The Tereanans developed transwarp so that they could get back to Earth after a temporal anomaly put them around 15,000 light-years from Earth an 400 years back in time.  The anomaly was one-way.

posted on March 31st, 2011, 5:45 pm

*****Captain's Log: Stardate 98955.7 - Adm. Petri - U.S.S. Hime*****
The U.S.S. Himalaya and U.S.S. Planck are en route to our location, ETA 1 hour. Per our orders we are holding position until they arrive. The Tereanan's latest engagement with both the Borg and Zeggepians is mildly unsettling. Clearly their ships are vulnerable and although they are willing to use Omega in any situation, they are unwilling to die foolishly. This could definitely work to our advantage if we could catch them as they retreat. The disappearance of eight cubes is also disturbing. There's no sign that they left via transwarp and cloaks aren't exactly the Borg's strong suit. My concern is that the Zeggepians are some how responsible; although even if they are, they now have a couple million Borg drones to deal with.
********

First Officer: White to Petri, the science vessels have arrived.

Captain: Understood, I'm on my way.
.
Petri arrives on the bridge
First Officer: Shall I raise them, sir.

Nods approval
On screen

Captain: Captain Romanov, I trust you brought an army.

Romanov: Not exactly, why?

Captain: Because that ring is massive. It's gonna take you a long time to study that thing.

Romanov: Think of it like this: this way, there will be something left for you, heheh.

Captain: (Aside) Cheeky bastard I'd probably do a better job too.

Proximity Warning sounds
Captain: Report!

Tactical: Two Romulan warbirds decloaking to port. We're being hailed.

Captain: On screen.

Romulan Captain: This is commander T'Sar of the Imperial Warbird Sha'nak. Explain your presence in this sector.

Captain: I am Admiral Paul Petri of the Federation Starship Hime. This is neutral space. We have as much right to be here as you do, but since you asked. We're investigating the destruction of a Starbase near here. We detected abnormal energy readings from this system and decided to take a look.

Romulan Captain: A likely story. More likely you were inspecting your super weapon, preparing it to use on the Empire.

Captain: That ring is most certainly not ours; it's well beyond our means and yours for that matter. We have determined it has no connection to the destruction of the starbase. We have already identified those responsible for the destruction of our base. They are probably also the ones responsible for the disappearance of your warbirds. If you would like, we can share what we know. As a..show of good faith.

Romulan Captain: Very well.

Captain:(Aside to crew) Send them what we have on the Zaggepians and the ring, minus our little discovery of omega traces. Hopefully that will satisfy them.

Romulan Captain: We will examine this information. You would be wise to withdraw your ships least their actions be misinterpreted.

Captain: Is that a threat commander? Because I won't be intimidated. These vessels are just science teams. If you would like, I could arrange to allow some Romulan teams study this ring as well. But the Federation has as much right to be here as you do, or do I have to start filing land claims.

Romulan Captain: That will not be necessary. Good day Admiral.
Channel Closed

Tactical: The warbirds are turning away and cloaking.

First Officer: If I may sir, what was all that.

Captain: Hm. I suppose you wouldn't know. Romulans. A very touch bunch. Very secretive. The Federation has effectively been in a stalemate with them for the last, oh...200 or so years. The neutral zone was established to help mediate tensions. Relations were actually improving until the latest political turn overs; now they've gone back to being xenophobic and suspicious. Generally speaking if you can talk a Romulan down, do it. The fact that they slunk away today says that we're of more use to them alive than dead. They'll probably loiter around watching while we do our thing. Hey, Romanov, you still there?

Romanov: I am here. Was it wise to give them what we know?

Captain: Who knows, it kept them quiet. Listen, carry on, but tread carefully. Our Romulan friends are probably still around. I'll inform Starfleet. Hime out.
Helm, set course for the Tereanan blockade, warp 7.

Helm: Aye, sir.

posted on March 31st, 2011, 5:45 pm

if the terrenans have omega safely contained then why dont they use it in their ships? i mean whats the point of keeping omega in the middle of a porcupine field of turrets and not using it? why not just destroy it?

posted on March 31st, 2011, 6:31 pm

Because the Tereanan's don't yet have reliable enough technology to use it as a power source.  Although they are trying.  But they certainly know how to neutralize it.  And they know how to reduce the damage done to subspace when it goes haywire.  They don't use it in their ships because it's much too dangerous.  Especially on the battlefield.  Plus, there's no telling what the Federation would do if they found out that the Tereanans were using Omega as a power source.

=== BEGIN ===

=== TSS Mountshining - Captains Log - Stardate 2404/042 ===

We have arrived at the starbase with a derelict Borg cube in tow and are beginning repairs to both vessels.  The cube will basically be turned inside out with most of the Borg technology being removed.  The Mountshining will be taking on supplies and torpedoes to prepare to re-engage the Borg and most likely, the Zaggepians.

Although it wasn't my intention to engage the Zaggepians, when they tried to fire their Omega torpedoes we were left with little choice.  The Zaggepians didn't seem to like the fact that we attacked the Borg despite being asked to withdraw from battle and they'll likely be back for more.  Their tactics seem to be to fire the Omega weapon and get out before it goes off.  A bit unsettling.

There has been no declaration of war yet, but I suspect that the Tereanan Empire will attempt to destroy the Zaggepian's singularity technology, which appears to be extremely advanced if they have it as a reliable power source even in battle.  And especially since they seem to use it as a conventional weapon.  Because of this, the Tereanan's may try to launch a preemptive strike to prevent them from using it again.  The Zaggepians probably won't use the Omega weapon in their space because of the damaging effects.  Their technology is most unsettling because the Borg is involved.  If they get their assimilation tubules on that technology, the Borg will become even more dangerous than they are now.

=== End Log Entry ===

Tactical:  Captain on the bridge.

Captain:  Any progress on finding out how those cubes just disappeared?

First Officer:  None.  We've used just about every specialized detection method at our disposal.  Even compensating for dispersal fields.  We've found nothing.

Captain:  It's unlike the Borg to just vanish like that.  Perhaps they were taken out of the battle by something else.

First Officer:  We detected what appeared to be subspace pockets most likely caused by the use of Omega during the battle, but our subspace scans aren't detecting anything.

Captain:  Hopefully, Tereanan Command assigned a ship to study it.  Once we're done at this shipyard, we should return to the blockade.

=== On Another Tereanan Ship (Assigned to study the pockets) ===

Tactical:  There is a ship emerging from one of those pockets.  It's Federation.

First Officer:  Funny, the Federation wasn't involved in this battle and they havn't been here at all after the battle.

Tactical:  They are powering weapons.

Captain:  Hail them.

Comm:  No response.

First Officer:  Shields!

=== To be continued... ===

posted on March 31st, 2011, 6:39 pm

Plus, there's no telling what the Federation would do if they found out that the Tereanans were using Omega as a power source.

what could they do? unless they are op in your universe too