Burn The Danish Flag!
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posted on February 7th, 2006, 9:02 am
since it isn't involving the amerians and i expected that ewm would start this thread, i have made it.
a danish paper made a cartoon about mohammed of the islam.(which isn't allowed in their religion) the islamic world is upset and roits against the EU and denmark are spreading. People burning spitting and running over the EU en danish flag to offend the danish and european people. even demolishing government buildings and not buying danish products. The european arabic liga even made cartoons about hitler sleeping with anne frank. to show they have the same right of freedom of speech as the danish paper with their cartoon.
what do you think about the current situation?
i think all those people have like a special room with flags and when they have the excuse they can grab them and burn them. it's kinda like a hobby. getting from uhmm ridivulous to insane
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a danish paper made a cartoon about mohammed of the islam.(which isn't allowed in their religion) the islamic world is upset and roits against the EU and denmark are spreading. People burning spitting and running over the EU en danish flag to offend the danish and european people. even demolishing government buildings and not buying danish products. The european arabic liga even made cartoons about hitler sleeping with anne frank. to show they have the same right of freedom of speech as the danish paper with their cartoon.
what do you think about the current situation?
i think all those people have like a special room with flags and when they have the excuse they can grab them and burn them. it's kinda like a hobby. getting from uhmm ridivulous to insane

posted on February 7th, 2006, 9:07 am
Well i compleltley agree with what the danish have done (look at my sig) they constantly publish cartoons about jews, christains and the west mockingly but at the first site of the west doing the same they erupt, the west has elvolved and changed over time they have not, they are still the same as 1400 years ago but with more tech.
Here in the west we have learned that the person next to us my not agree and his opinion may be different, but we accept that, they accept that there opinion IS RIGHT and that you will be punished for it.
FFS islam its a cartoon i could understand it if it was a statue in every wester capital its a cartoon and you are provoking us to keep publishing them by trampling on our rights (and flags). the west is starting to get ****** with you.
check this site out
Faces of Muhammed
Here in the west we have learned that the person next to us my not agree and his opinion may be different, but we accept that, they accept that there opinion IS RIGHT and that you will be punished for it.
FFS islam its a cartoon i could understand it if it was a statue in every wester capital its a cartoon and you are provoking us to keep publishing them by trampling on our rights (and flags). the west is starting to get ****** with you.
check this site out
Faces of Muhammed
posted on February 7th, 2006, 2:23 pm
Propaganda. Iran president speeched up his men...i feel a strong flair of war rising up! Childish and emotional acts of "what u´ve done u´ll get back"-opinions like in Israel between Jews and Palestinian groups could overwhelm the world.
BUT! Christians did so aswell hundreds of years ago...the only difference was: They had no knowledge of nuclear weapons that could eliminate the whole world. Much islamic groups are full of hate for the western civilisations but the same count of moslems critisize what their own ppl are doing. So stay quiet and don´t provocate situations like this. maybe they calm down.
BUT! Christians did so aswell hundreds of years ago...the only difference was: They had no knowledge of nuclear weapons that could eliminate the whole world. Much islamic groups are full of hate for the western civilisations but the same count of moslems critisize what their own ppl are doing. So stay quiet and don´t provocate situations like this. maybe they calm down.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 3:15 pm
Last edited by ewm90 on February 7th, 2006, 3:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
thare is a difrants between freedom of speech and insolting a nuther religons buleeffs.
if the muslom religon it is a sin the rite mohamed in serton ways. after mohamed is riton it must be distoyed in a serton way outlined in the krone. so not only to use mohamed name in a way that insolts the muslom religon but to make a image of him with a bomb ion his hed is a abuse of freedom of speech.
freedoms of speech is intinted to left pepal exprees tham selve opinly with out the feer of punishment. it was not intinded to to be used as a way to instolt uther colchers on perpose.
JUST BE CUSS YOU CAN DUSS NOT MEEN YOU SHOULD.
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now i here that iran is going to print holicost caroons as retribution for the mohamed cartoons.
this is out of controle.
if the muslom religon it is a sin the rite mohamed in serton ways. after mohamed is riton it must be distoyed in a serton way outlined in the krone. so not only to use mohamed name in a way that insolts the muslom religon but to make a image of him with a bomb ion his hed is a abuse of freedom of speech.
freedoms of speech is intinted to left pepal exprees tham selve opinly with out the feer of punishment. it was not intinded to to be used as a way to instolt uther colchers on perpose.
JUST BE CUSS YOU CAN DUSS NOT MEEN YOU SHOULD.
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now i here that iran is going to print holicost caroons as retribution for the mohamed cartoons.
this is out of controle.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 3:42 pm
Last edited by [TD]Roach on February 7th, 2006, 3:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
lol well you see now alot of europeans fo on the street protesting about the holocaust and burning arabian flags.... uhmm NOT. It is clearly just overreaction on the arabic part. the only reaction there was when the holocaust cartoon was printed by the european arabic liga was a complain from some jewish fund.
and every joke is based on an insult. i mean if you start making a joke about amish people, the amish don't find it funny but they don't start barging in and kill the person who made that joke.
same with those cartoons of politicians, you don't see them start talking on tv that they have been insulted by them. because it is a joke.
and expressing your oppion is not always without fear. expression of your oppion comes with responsibility. i mean if a politician starts spreading word that he hates all jews then he isn't making friends either or that all americans start saying that they dislike black people. same thing.
it isn't allowed to say that in public but in your privite home some individuals do believe that what is said in the example above.
and every joke is based on an insult. i mean if you start making a joke about amish people, the amish don't find it funny but they don't start barging in and kill the person who made that joke.
same with those cartoons of politicians, you don't see them start talking on tv that they have been insulted by them. because it is a joke.
and expressing your oppion is not always without fear. expression of your oppion comes with responsibility. i mean if a politician starts spreading word that he hates all jews then he isn't making friends either or that all americans start saying that they dislike black people. same thing.
it isn't allowed to say that in public but in your privite home some individuals do believe that what is said in the example above.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 3:48 pm
Last edited by Cpt Ryan on February 7th, 2006, 3:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
TBH i really cant see what is so offensive with the cartoon
, assuming it is the one that was in the Sun newspaper (Euf/someone else in UK, may be able to confirm this). i mean jesus & God (catholic one anyway) have been used in cartoons 1000s of times & you never really hear of anyone crying about it let alone worldwide rioting.
if you get upset by a cartoon, which i think are supposed to bring light humour to every day things, well i really think you have problems, there are far more important things in life than a cartoon. if it was made to insult muslims then those people should have their heads examined, (i mean what did they think was gonna happen in todays world
).
@roach i dont think its muslims in general that are so incensed by it, just the hardline ones who go around telling other muslims to do horible things themselves. i sincerly doubt that the majority of muslims are all that bothered by it, (not one of my muslim friends are)
with me not having any religon i tend to try and stay away from discussions like this but this has really caught my eye.

if you get upset by a cartoon, which i think are supposed to bring light humour to every day things, well i really think you have problems, there are far more important things in life than a cartoon. if it was made to insult muslims then those people should have their heads examined, (i mean what did they think was gonna happen in todays world

@roach i dont think its muslims in general that are so incensed by it, just the hardline ones who go around telling other muslims to do horible things themselves. i sincerly doubt that the majority of muslims are all that bothered by it, (not one of my muslim friends are)
with me not having any religon i tend to try and stay away from discussions like this but this has really caught my eye.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 3:49 pm
Last edited by ewm90 on February 7th, 2006, 3:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Roach,Feb 7 2006, 04:42 PM] lol well you see now alot of europeans fo on the street protesting about the holocaust and burning arabian flags.... uhmm NOT. It is clearly just overreaction on the arabic part. the only reaction there was when the holocaust cartoon was printed by the european arabic liga was a complain from some jewish fund.
and every joke is based on an insult. i mean if you start making a joke about amish people, the amish don't find it funny but they don't start barging in and kill the person who made that joke.
same with those cartoons of politicians, you don't see them start talking on tv that they have been insulted by them. because it is a joke.
well to tham mohamed is as sinsative a subject as the hosicost is to isreal.
musloms take thare religon very very sierisly and it is not wise to sick a brach in to a horints-nest.
most jokes i make are not instoling pepal and the ones i do if i do are in privte whare the peron or perosn how are the brunt of the joke can not hear it.
to the arib word mohamed is not joke like the halocost is no joke.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 3:55 pm
you can't have a joke without taking the mickey out of yourself or someone else, animal or thing. otherwise it isn't a joke.
look at laural and hardy always feel in teh jokes of hardy at his own expence. if he took it seriously he would be very annoyed.
because a joke like why did the chicken cross the road, is even offending to a chicken because in that joke he is made to look stupid. fortunately the chicken can't understand english
so tell me a joke that isn't offending anyone.
look at laural and hardy always feel in teh jokes of hardy at his own expence. if he took it seriously he would be very annoyed.
because a joke like why did the chicken cross the road, is even offending to a chicken because in that joke he is made to look stupid. fortunately the chicken can't understand english

so tell me a joke that isn't offending anyone.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 3:58 pm
whould you make a insolting joke about a terminly ill person to a terminly ill person.
some times you have to think about what you are saying.
some times you have to think about what you are saying.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 6:33 pm
Its seems like certain people can make fun of others, but those other people cannot make similiar jests at the first group of people.
Certain Muslims tend to take things way too seriously anyway. There will aways be people who cant take a joke and go off on other people because of it.
If people just learned to take jokes and either ignore them or make other ones back, we would all be alot better off. Destroying property because of an silly cartoon is childish.
Certain Muslims tend to take things way too seriously anyway. There will aways be people who cant take a joke and go off on other people because of it.
If people just learned to take jokes and either ignore them or make other ones back, we would all be alot better off. Destroying property because of an silly cartoon is childish.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 6:55 pm
Dirty Harry
thare are some things that are in bad tast. some thing should not be jokes.
well its not just muloms crichans have simler tindisys. if you go up to a evajelic crichan and say i think jesus is a stoopid moron i shere you would get a angry respose.
when you bleve in some thing so much is be comes rality you tined to take it very sierisly.
like i sed some things should not be jokes. thare are all ways going to be pepal how feel strongly about things to the pont thay jet insolted if some thing says thay are rong or degrates tham in thare eyes.
----> my sig quote= I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief. By: Gerry Spence
thare are some things that are in bad tast. some thing should not be jokes.
well its not just muloms crichans have simler tindisys. if you go up to a evajelic crichan and say i think jesus is a stoopid moron i shere you would get a angry respose.
when you bleve in some thing so much is be comes rality you tined to take it very sierisly.
like i sed some things should not be jokes. thare are all ways going to be pepal how feel strongly about things to the pont thay jet insolted if some thing says thay are rong or degrates tham in thare eyes.
----> my sig quote= I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief. By: Gerry Spence
posted on February 7th, 2006, 7:04 pm
bad taste is different to everyone.
and it depends in what kind of situation you are that the joke is funny. even if the teminally ill is involved.
and why should a moslim half around world start complaining about something that happenend in another country where it is normal? besides, why did they just didn't complain instat of starting a rampage. and the danish people aread appologiesed anyway. but that doesn't help.
and it depends in what kind of situation you are that the joke is funny. even if the teminally ill is involved.
and why should a moslim half around world start complaining about something that happenend in another country where it is normal? besides, why did they just didn't complain instat of starting a rampage. and the danish people aread appologiesed anyway. but that doesn't help.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 7:09 pm
you have to understand the muslom religon and colcher to understand why.
posted on February 7th, 2006, 8:30 pm
the thing is though, they produce things about the west and the west has just ignored it, why can't they do the same, and what you was saying about the majority of muslims not caring, why is it such a big thing, its a world wide issue I would say that was the majoirty of them.
With my experence of muslim culture is is fanatical and extreme, degrading to others and anything that is different to it then it IS wrong and deserves to be blown up. There culture (again going by experence ) is to take over things and not intergrate, you can see areas of the town that are fully muslim nothing else, they are almost like a gang if your different you can't be in and we're better than your gang sort of attutide.
I would say that this is just the situation in my town but i have seen it in many other citys and town ( I have even seen it in some parts of wales)
With my experence of muslim culture is is fanatical and extreme, degrading to others and anything that is different to it then it IS wrong and deserves to be blown up. There culture (again going by experence ) is to take over things and not intergrate, you can see areas of the town that are fully muslim nothing else, they are almost like a gang if your different you can't be in and we're better than your gang sort of attutide.
I would say that this is just the situation in my town but i have seen it in many other citys and town ( I have even seen it in some parts of wales)
posted on February 7th, 2006, 8:55 pm
the thing is though, they produce things about the west and the west has just ignored it, why can't they do the same, and what you was saying about the majority of muslims not caring, why is it such a big thing, its a world wide issue I would say that was the majoirty of them.
With my experence of muslim culture is is fanatical and extreme, degrading to others and anything that is different to it then it IS wrong and deserves to be blown up. There culture (again going by experence ) is to take over things and not intergrate, you can see areas of the town that are fully muslim nothing else, they are almost like a gang if your different you can't be in and we're better than your gang sort of attutide.
I would say that this is just the situation in my town but i have seen it in many other citys and town ( I have even seen it in some parts of wales)
1) that is so stereotypical of you and quite frankly offensive to every muslim who ever walked the earth though I don't expect much better from you of all people.
2) All these problem's we are seeing are not to do with some cartoons but a greater problem, although in general muslims are peace loving people the radicals among them have a strong hatred of anything that doesn't go to a mosque in a turban all the time. Proof of this is that today in afganistan the rioters attacked not only some very ****** off danish people but a US military base! The British army had to go and reinforce the UN forces across the country. These cartoons are three things, an excuse for the radical section, a reason for some of the more peaceful muslims to get angry and most importantly the spark to a much bigger fuse for as much bigger bomb. Indeed when you not only count the cartoons, Iraq, Isreal and the westernised muslim countrys of Jordan and Saudi-Arabia you are lookign at a massive problem that will get worse. It has even being sujested that a third world war will come as a result, while that may be an over statement, it is on the right lines.
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