Boggz' New Computer

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 1:01 pm

right. i have to admit i don't do much video rendering. still, i think cpu and storage have more impact, and another 4gb ram module can be added later. and the top-of-the-line graphics cards are insanely overpriced imho. i'd buy a mid-range card and maybe add another for sli/crossfire later on, as the prices drop rapidly when a new generation comes out.

edit. dual channel! damn, i forgot about that. ok, sorry, no single ram module, definitely use two. but if you do, go for 2x4gb.

[Dexter]

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 1:02 pm

Last edited by Dexter on June 23rd, 2011, 1:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Processor : Intel Core i5 2400 Sandy Bridge BOX 3100 MHz 4 Cores
RAM : Kingston DDR3 4096MB (2 x 2048) 1600Mhz CL9 HyperX Blue
Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-P67A-D3-B3  - supports 2133 MHz RAM at a maximum of 32768 MB + 2 x PCI Express x16 video slot (SLI tech)
Video : Gigabyte GeForce GTS 450 1024MB DDR5 OC - 3608 MHz Direct X 11
+ other stuff  ..
2 HDD's SATA3 500 + 500 GB Seagate Baracuda

Cost me with import VAT's and all the other ... approximately  600 Euro - that's about 870 dollars

If you need more technobable tell me

Fact is you can get almost the top gear with your budget.
Good luck ..

Your "nemesis" Dexter

P.S: My 100'th "wasted" on you  ... (mutters something in klingon)

[Kestrel]

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 1:34 pm

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I built my awesome pc for £180 and its very good.

Heres a list on pc parts for less than £400

Processor AMD Phonom II x4 840 at 3.2Ghz = £78

Motherboard = Asus M488T-M = £60

4gb Corsair Vengeance 1,600Mhz ddr3 ram = £40

Case = antec One hundred = £41 i use a galaxy case which is way cheaper and awesome.

PSU = 430W Corsair CX430 = £35

500gb seagate 7,200RPM hdd = Price varys between £10 -£25

Optical drive LG dvd+rw =£15

OS optional window 7 64bit = £117

Can scrap or downgrade any of these components to get a cheaper price for example pirate a copy of windows and you can take £117 off the price, downgrade the case to a galaxy case and youll save another £25.

Prices are in £ but they may be even cheaper in the US or the equvalent in US dollars, Building your own pc is way cheaper than buying retail.... GL&HF

Total £370

Btw that motherboard has an intigrated GPU which can support fleet ops so you can choose to add a deticated gpu from one of the above posters or find a nice budget card like mine which is a gt 240.


You should also use ebay, you will get awesome cheap prices , my prices are retail prices.

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 1:37 pm

4GB of ram is sufficient. With video editting, all the ram of the videocard should be used, not the system ram. But I'd do at least a dual channel ram setup. That would be 2 ram modules of 2GB.

When you are editing/rendering in 1080p or higher (4K) your VRAM will fill up rather quickly.
You definitely want more than 4GB in your system if you can afford it.

right. i have to admit i don't do much video rendering. still, i think cpu and storage have more impact...

Absolutely!
Just wanted to point out that GPU assisted rendering is becoming more important.

Unfortunately getting a large SSD or a RAID0/5 array will bust Boggz' 1000 USD budget for sure and I am not sure if he is that serious about this editing stuff.

[alanalpha]

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 2:56 pm

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for Gcards check this site to compare the abilitys

PassMark Software - Video Card Benchmark Charts

i use the gt 240   but going to the GTS 450 is a massive improvment   for not that much cost less than 100 quid easy for a 1gb ram model   

if bogz lives in england (not sure never asked) then using play.com as a place to buy stuff can be usefull


also this wiki can help aswell  Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
some cards are OEM only but some cards are both (like the GTS 450)

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 5:49 pm

Cost me with import VAT's and all the other ... approximately  600 Euro - that's about 870 dollars

If you need more technobable tell me

Fact is you can get almost the top gear with your budget.
Good luck ..

Your "nemesis" Dexter

P.S: My 100'th "wasted" on you  ... (mutters something in klingon)

  Thanks, Dexter!

  I'll look into those specs myself.  And I don't know why you think we're "Nemesis's" .  Last time we talked on TeamSpeak (I don't know if you recall) we had a fascinating conversation about land-wars in Europe.  I had a great time and thought you were really smart - so I never considered you a 'nemesis' . 

  Back to topic-

  Yeah Phlox suggested a few things in terms of Video Processing programs.  Could I safely take away from all this that the Processor and the Video Card are the two most important aspects of editing video efficiently?

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 7:48 pm

First thanks for those awesome video commentaries :-).

I would personally go for graphics around the performance of AMD 6850 or  Geforce 5600Ti - even if it meant taking slower CPU. If you are mostly interested in gaming then graphics matters the most. CPU does not have that much of an impact on games.

AMD gives you a price advantage here becouse their CPUs and most importantly motherboards are cheaper - on the other hand they are not exactly  power effecient so you may end up paying the difference on power bills given enough time... Phenom X4 is a optimal choice here, X6 is waste of money becouse you won't benefit from added cores in game performance, where frequency is more important. intel i5 is alternative but you will pay more for a platform as a whole.

If you however want to do some serious video editing (or you like power effeciency, or if you like silence), then intel is a FAR better choice.
 
As far as motherboards are concerned I've had bad experiences with cheap manufacturers, so I would advise getting at least a mainstream one (Asus, Gigabyte). Go for two memory modules for CPUs with dualchannel contoller or you will make small kittens die horribly. 4GB should be allright.

As of late people do tend to somewhat oversize (eh not the right word) their powersupply - 500W or 550W is all you will propably ever need (if it realy is a 500W - some manufacturers can sell you a 500W which will die on load of 250W...).

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 8:39 pm

Video editing on 1080p with my current specs now. And it's not that slow.
Considering most of my parts are about 4-5 years old. It still works fine

posted on June 25th, 2011, 10:42 pm

So the new computer has been decided upon!

  View it HERE.

  A little angel is being very kind and splurging on this for me  .  Shame is mixed with intense excitement .

posted on June 25th, 2011, 11:38 pm

Congrats Boggz! 

Just a few things to consider (if you don't mind):

• You can save yourself 100 quid and forget about Windows 7 Professional. Home Premium is usually sufficient.

• Dual Channel works best with even numbers (4,6,8,12,16) and 2 identical memory sticks. You can run 3 sticks in Flex mode but it will be a lot slower than it could be.

• The HD6670 is a-okay, but I'd suggest the following:
  Select 8 GB RAM, forget about the HP 3-year service and use the savings to upgrade to the 550Ti or HD6850.
  Those cards are twice as fast as the 6670.

• The i7-2600 doesn't have a free multiplier like the 2600k. No problem unless you are planning to overclock, though.

You'd save a lot of money by getting the components you want from Newegg and assembling the PC yourself. Or maybe you know someone you can do that for you instead. HP, like any PC vendor will charge you a premium for assembly and shipping.

Have fun with your new PC!

posted on June 26th, 2011, 12:28 am

Norton, seriously?

posted on June 26th, 2011, 1:32 am

Boggzy Boggzy Boggzy...  so expensive

but congratz to new computer 
Norton is not that nice to your performance i must say

Dual Channel works best with even numbers (4,6,8,12,16) and 2 identical memory sticks. You can run 3 sticks in Flex mode but it will be a lot slower than it could be.

Triple-channel architecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

posted on June 26th, 2011, 1:36 am

For me I'm getting e machine  with 2K of RAM a 50 meg drive.  and two day laborers to hold up the monitor which will be made of cardboard. My computer comes with a 30 day chance of money backe lucky not a lot of computer companies offer that

posted on June 26th, 2011, 3:50 am

Wow, sexy.  Yes you could build it yourself for around $1200 but still, sexy.

Note #1: I don't see USB 3.0 ports on that list.  It says 2 USB on the back but those are probably USB 1.0 for a mouse or keyboard.  If you can somehow get some USB 3.0 capability on it, DO IT.  USB 3.0 runs over 15x as fast as USB 2.0.

Note #2: The 3-year HP service contract is probably worthless.  The 2-year warranty is priceless.  Check if the basic option still includes a 2-year warranty and if it does, drop the service contract and save yourself $130.

If you get some USB 3.0 on that machine, it will be able to handle ANYTHING that comes out in the next 5 years or so I expect. 

posted on June 26th, 2011, 5:12 am

Heh, well to all those suggesting money-saving things - I'm not paying for the PC    .

  This is actually being gifted to me so I'm trying not to be too picky.  Thanks for all the help in deciding what will work best, though!