A new Earth?
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posted on April 28th, 2007, 9:04 pm
Indeed. I doubt we'd even actually need to colonize this planet.
Earth is quite sufficient.
Earth is quite sufficient.
posted on April 28th, 2007, 10:16 pm
Well I don't know between the bees and globule worming and "PEOPLE THAT THINK GLOBULE WORMING IS A NORMAL ACERENTS. I don't hold much hope for the human race.
posted on April 28th, 2007, 11:06 pm
Perhaps, then, you are a fool.
Blaming humanity for the works of nature can hardly pass as rational.
Blaming humanity for the works of nature can hardly pass as rational.
posted on April 28th, 2007, 11:56 pm
and about %60 of the USA + all our political leaders.
You still have not given me any reasons to support you point. the Idea that it is a natural phenomenon has bean proven wrong by NASA.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2023835.stm - Bush
http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba230.html
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html
You still have not given me any reasons to support you point. the Idea that it is a natural phenomenon has bean proven wrong by NASA.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2023835.stm - Bush
http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba230.html
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html
posted on April 29th, 2007, 1:31 am
Last edited by Redshirt on April 29th, 2007, 1:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
Hahaha, you make make me laugh.
Ooooo, because 60 percent of US citizens think it, it MUST be true!!
Do you know how educated the American people on major issues?! Is this some kind of joke? 75% of the public can't even name any Supreme court justices, much less think for themselves on any major issues!
Oh, and our POLITICAL LEADERS have a working understanding of our climate! Oooooooo!! They MUST be right! It's not like they may be under POLITICAL PRESSURE, or anything like THAT!

You can't reasonably expect me to take you seriously when you use things like this to justify your point!
To quote the conclusion of one of the acticles you linked to:
Quite with the "earth is doomed" rhetoric, ewm.
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Oh, and you still haven't watched the video my sig links to, have you, ewm? I encourage you to do so, with the open mind your sig refers to.
Ooooo, because 60 percent of US citizens think it, it MUST be true!!

Do you know how educated the American people on major issues?! Is this some kind of joke? 75% of the public can't even name any Supreme court justices, much less think for themselves on any major issues!
Oh, and our POLITICAL LEADERS have a working understanding of our climate! Oooooooo!! They MUST be right! It's not like they may be under POLITICAL PRESSURE, or anything like THAT!

You can't reasonably expect me to take you seriously when you use things like this to justify your point!
To quote the conclusion of one of the acticles you linked to:
As scientists expose the myths concerning global warming, the fears of an apocalypse should subside. So rather than legislating in haste and ignorance and repenting at leisure, our government should maintain rational policies, based on science and adaptable to future discoveries.
Quite with the "earth is doomed" rhetoric, ewm.
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Oh, and you still haven't watched the video my sig links to, have you, ewm? I encourage you to do so, with the open mind your sig refers to.
posted on April 29th, 2007, 1:44 am
Are you blind? or are you trying to act like you are? I gave you 3 links that talk about globule worming and you go looking for any thing that contradicts my findings.
Well if you are trying to ignore the facts their nothing I can do. If you you are trying to do it get me to say I wrong I will I have no pride worth the furthering in your hypocritical delusions.
The facts are out their you just have to be man consider them.
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Wag TV, Wad TV is whare you get your information??
I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief. By: Gerry Spence
Well if you are trying to ignore the facts their nothing I can do. If you you are trying to do it get me to say I wrong I will I have no pride worth the furthering in your hypocritical delusions.
The facts are out their you just have to be man consider them.
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Wag TV, Wad TV is whare you get your information??
I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief. By: Gerry Spence
posted on April 29th, 2007, 2:14 am
On the contrary, neither of them truly have any standing.
It's not as if scientists are in agreement over this, and the rest smacks of politics, which is not to be mixed with science in any way. (I'm looking at you, Al Gore...)
It is unfortunate that the video went down. It presented points much more succinctly and accurately than I could. Bloody shame.
Unfortunately, it's far too late and I'm far too tired to find either the points in it or the video itself.
Indeed, the facts are out there, and I could say the same to you.
Oh, and the video is from BBC, actually. I do not know at theis point what part Wag/Wad/whatever TV had in it's production.
Oh, and I have a personal dislike of link-spamming.
It's not as if scientists are in agreement over this, and the rest smacks of politics, which is not to be mixed with science in any way. (I'm looking at you, Al Gore...)
It is unfortunate that the video went down. It presented points much more succinctly and accurately than I could. Bloody shame.
Unfortunately, it's far too late and I'm far too tired to find either the points in it or the video itself.
Indeed, the facts are out there, and I could say the same to you.
Oh, and the video is from BBC, actually. I do not know at theis point what part Wag/Wad/whatever TV had in it's production.
Oh, and I have a personal dislike of link-spamming.
posted on April 29th, 2007, 2:34 am
Last edited by ewm90 on April 29th, 2007, 2:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
On the contrary, neither of them truly have any standing.
The FACTS disagree and so do I.
Ummm
It's not as if scientists are in agreement over this, and the rest smacks of politics, which is not to be mixed with science in any way. (I'm looking at you, Al Gore...)
agreement on global warming
Delegates from more than 160 countries met in Kyoto, Japan, in 1997 to draft the agreement that became known as the Kyoto Protocol. That agreement calls for decreases in the emissions of greenhouse gases.
Text above comes from link below.
http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_wa ... dbook.html
other sores you can use.It is unfortunate that the video went down. It presented points much more succinctly and accurately than I could. Bloody shame.
Well if your point is valid their should be
Its not Spaming. Its my pont of vouw
posted on April 29th, 2007, 5:39 pm
just for a laugh, some Irony
a Global Warming conference in northern U.S.A. was canceled recentley due to-
a blizzard
a Global Warming conference in northern U.S.A. was canceled recentley due to-
a blizzard

posted on April 29th, 2007, 6:46 pm
ewm90 wrote:On the contrary, neither of them truly have any standing.
The FACTS disagree and so do I.
Untrue, but there's no point in saying anything more if you're not gonna listen.
It's not as if scientists are in agreement over this, and the rest smacks of politics, which is not to be mixed with science in any way. (I'm looking at you, Al Gore...)
agreement on global warming
Not exactly. A surprisingly large amount of scientists on the UN global warming committee/panel/whatever disagree with the assertion that human have significantly contributed to global warming.
Delegates from more than 160 countries met in Kyoto, Japan, in 1997 to draft the agreement that became known as the Kyoto Protocol. That agreement calls for decreases in the emissions of greenhouse gases.
Text above comes from link below.
http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_wa ... dbook.html
Indeed they did. However, it was never satisfactory and is now out of date.
It puts too much strain on developed countries and not nearly enough on developing ones.
It needs to be revised to be more equal, and also more stringent.
other sores you can use.It is unfortunate that the video went down. It presented points much more succinctly and accurately than I could. Bloody shame.
Well if your point is valid their should be
Its not Spaming. Its my pont of vouw
I believe you misunderstood.
I did not intend to refer to this particular incident, but rather the practice as a whole.
Admiral Adama wrote:just for a laugh, some Irony
a Global Warming conference in northern U.S.A. was canceled recentley due to-
a blizzard

posted on April 30th, 2007, 12:46 am
there are many people (me +other scientists) who think that this is just a cycle. after all weren't people screaming about another ice age several decades ago
posted on April 30th, 2007, 12:49 am
I lison But from what I have read from NASA, NOWA, and every uther goverment organisation + all most all news out fits from all over the world + evry oganisation I know conected with sinents tific reserch.
2Look it up man http://unfccc.int/2860.php
3.Not true china is on the for one is on the for frunt of resherch and devlipments.
Well will all have to make scrifises but if we do nuthing agin the deavlping world will get the werst of it 1st with thay are starting to now.
I am oppined to Ideas.
4. Agin I disagree we are posing in the rite place.
Duhhh Globle worming is not cleer cut. wether patters are eratic with is a simptom of global worming - eleno.
2Look it up man http://unfccc.int/2860.php
3.Not true china is on the for one is on the for frunt of resherch and devlipments.
Well will all have to make scrifises but if we do nuthing agin the deavlping world will get the werst of it 1st with thay are starting to now.
I am oppined to Ideas.
4. Agin I disagree we are posing in the rite place.
Duhhh Globle worming is not cleer cut. wether patters are eratic with is a simptom of global worming - eleno.
posted on April 30th, 2007, 1:02 am
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to bad its all politics. how about a new rule: only neutral sources i.e.wiki
now back on topic:
who here thinks we should colinize, this new Planet?
I think that the biggest problem would be staying fit for 20+ years and then adjusting to 2x gravity
to bad its all politics. how about a new rule: only neutral sources i.e.wiki
now back on topic:
who here thinks we should colinize, this new Planet?
I think that the biggest problem would be staying fit for 20+ years and then adjusting to 2x gravity
posted on April 30th, 2007, 3:19 am
Wicapedea is options many facks but its hard to tell whats what.
No way it would take take a generational ship to get their and I cant even see how we could survive the human body floats a part with out gravity. Not to minion the morel implication of having kids in a ship....
Side note: Red you never replied to the other thread.
No way it would take take a generational ship to get their and I cant even see how we could survive the human body floats a part with out gravity. Not to minion the morel implication of having kids in a ship....
Side note: Red you never replied to the other thread.
posted on April 30th, 2007, 9:18 pm
your not listening. we reach close to speed of light and for 20 years we fly to this planet. when we get there we colonise this planet. simply don't have children while en route. also ships can be built with a rotating ring to provide gravity. over the 20 years gradually increase the speed of thisring until it is 2x earth gravity. perfect. also, wtf did you mean by" Not to mention the moral implications of having kids in a ship"?
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