Need some help with a section of weapon coding.

posted on May 14th, 2013, 3:33 pm

I am working on a weapon for a station in my mod and I want to make sure I get all the stock Fleet operations ships that are the size of a B'rel Bird of Prey on down in the list to have a hit chance of 0.1.

At present the list is as follows.
hitChance = 1.0
"fed_venture.odf" 0.1
"fed_ventureM.odf" 0.1
"fed_ventureMM.odf" 0.1
"fed_ventureMMM.odf" 0.1
"fed_ventureS.odf" 0.1
"3rdfighter.odf" 0.1
"8472_scout.odf" 0.1
"B4leescort.odf" 0.1
"B4lefighter.odf" 0.1
"B4leintercepter.odf" 0.1
"dom_scout.odf" 0.1
"lefighter.odf" 0.1
"leescort.odf" 0.1
"leintercepter.odf" 0.1
"dom_scoutS.odf" 0.1
"kli_noqduj.odf" 0.1
"kli_noqduj_dom.odf" 0.1
"kli_noqdujS.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_bor.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borM.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borMr2.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borMr3.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borMr4.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borMr5.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borMr6.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borr2.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borr3.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borr4.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borr5.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_borr6.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_rom.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romM.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romMr2.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romMr3.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romMr4.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romMr5.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romMr6.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romr2.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romr3.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romr4.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romr5.odf" 0.1
"kli_brel_romr6.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelM.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelMr2.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelMr3.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelMr4.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelMr5.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelMr6.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelr2.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelr3.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelr4.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelr5.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelr6.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelZ.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelZM.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelZMr2.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelZMr3.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelZMr4.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelZMr5.odf" 0.1
"kli_brelZMr6.odf" 0.1
"rom_talon.odf" 0.1
"rom_talon_detect.odf" 0.1
"rom_talon_repair_fed.odf" 0.1
"rom_talonS.odf" 0.1
"bor_scoutcube_P.odf" 0.1
"bor_scoutcube_I.odf" 0.1
"bor_scoutcube_R.odf" 0.1
"bor_scoutcube_E.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_BTT.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_BTR.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_BTA.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_BRA.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_BAA.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_TTR.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_TTA.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_TRA.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_TAA.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_RAA.odf" 0.1
"bor_assimilator_AAA.odf" 0.1
"itieb2.odf" 0.1
"itieb.odf" 0.1
"itief.odf" 0.1
"itint.odf" 0.1
"ear_fighter.odf" 0.1
"lebomber.odf" 0.1
"lefighter2.odf" 0.1

I'd like to know if I missed any.

posted on May 20th, 2013, 4:39 am

I beleave that your missing the Dominion Bugship and the Borg Probe.

posted on May 20th, 2013, 9:48 am

why do you have borg assimilators in that list? they're the polar opposite of the brel, slow, torpedo behemoths. you could throw torpedoes out the window and still hit an assimilator.

posted on May 20th, 2013, 2:11 pm

Saber?
Nova?
Rode Island?

You could throw torpedoes out the window and still hit an assimilator.

Now you know why Romulan Ale is forbidden.

[Myles]

posted on May 20th, 2013, 2:40 pm

Last edited by Myles on May 20th, 2013, 2:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

to add to the list of small sized ships:
shrike, rhienns and refits, fakairu (rom miner), mandril (fed miner), newton, monsoon, canaveral, norway, centaur, topmey, ktinga, kbearqjgj, kvort, veqlararralgh, susa, sang, edjen (klink ship, mixed tech from feds), dom bug, dom bomber, s2, c11, borg probe (the destroyer, not the scout).

and to confirm the question marks on desertyrain minrok's post, the sabre, nova and rhode island refit nova are all small as well.

remember a bunch of these ships have mixed tech versions, even the mandril has a mixed tech variant, so watch out for them.

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things that are not small:

- constructors are all medium. dom miner (all modes) is also medium. even the klink constructor (chor) is medium, despite the guide database listing it as small.

- yo momma

- borg scoutcube, it's medium.

- borg assim, definitely not small

- the saeihr (romulan ship, mixed tech from klinks). it's medium.

EDIT:

also not small is the defiant, it's medium. pretty sure that's just for balancing reasons, the defiant was a godship in canon at times.

posted on May 20th, 2013, 2:46 pm

What about the Defaint Class?

It is nearly the same size than a Saber.
If it counts: there are mixed tech versions, too.

Thanks Myles, for checking.

posted on May 20th, 2013, 2:55 pm

What about the Defaint Class?

It is nearly the same size than a Saber.
If it counts: there are mixed tech versions, too.

added that to my not small list. the defiant is medium.

i'm assuming by "same size as a brel" that op wants ships with the "small" size attribute.

posted on May 21st, 2013, 12:30 am

What about the Defaint Class?

It is nearly the same size than a Saber.
If it counts: there are mixed tech versions, too.

added that to my not small list. the defiant is medium.

i'm assuming by "same size as a brel" that op wants ships with the "small" size attribute.

OK my list is not right that is why I am asking for help.
I want the only ships in that list to be ships that are small around the size of the Brel.
So the Defiant class is to big but not by much.
This weapon file is for the Death star weapons so the weapons must miss small ships only.
And hit medium to large ships.
I am also open to the idea of almost always hitting medium ships too.

Feed back welcome.

posted on May 21st, 2013, 1:49 am

Out of curiosity, do you mean physically small or treated as small by game mechanics?

Physically, the Defiant is about the same size as the B'rel while treated as medium by the game.

posted on May 21st, 2013, 3:13 pm

OK my list is not right that is why I am asking for help.
I want the only ships in that list to be ships that are small around the size of the Brel.
So the Defiant class is to big but not by much.
This weapon file is for the Death star weapons so the weapons must miss small ships only.
And hit medium to large ships.
I am also open to the idea of almost always hitting medium ships too.

Feed back welcome.

Have you tried to open the map editor and place all the ships in a line? - I think it would be the best way, to see what has the size of a B'rel.

posted on May 22nd, 2013, 12:18 pm

Out of curiosity, do you mean physically small or treated as small by game mechanics?

Physically, the Defiant is about the same size as the B'rel while treated as medium by the game.

Physically small.
As for the line up idea that ain't bad if it wasn't for the fact I know other people will add mods to the game so I want to include popular small ships as well to the list.