Why Does ScaleSOD Not Work For Your Borg Units?

posted on April 26th, 2009, 10:53 pm

No really, why does scalesod not work on your borg models, its driving me crazy 

posted on April 26th, 2009, 10:56 pm

I actually havent gotton it to work for any units.

posted on April 26th, 2009, 11:31 pm

ive got it to work for the feds i tested it on just to make sure it worked... but not on the borg ones...

posted on April 27th, 2009, 9:37 am

good question, i dont see why it should not work, we dont use scalesod in fleet operations either way, so its untested

[redmanmark86]

posted on April 27th, 2009, 9:46 am

Last edited by redmanmark86 on April 27th, 2009, 10:08 am, edited 1 time in total.

ok i done some testing and it is something to do with one of the lines in the borgs odf...

i set a federation ship to use a tactical cube as a base sod and set the scale to 3.0 and lets just say it was bloody terrifying, defo would of been assimiliated had i not quit 

now i guess the trick is to find what line is causing the issue...

UPDATE:

Suddenly ScaleSOD is working for any SOD so god knows why it didnt work on any borg units yesterday

posted on April 27th, 2009, 2:37 pm

Its weird, cus Ive added several ships, and I just have to hope they are the right size.  It is not just borg.  I think like optec said. It is un-tested.

posted on April 27th, 2009, 2:53 pm

ScaleSOD is an original command from Armada 1 and 2 so doesnt need testing an should always work

posted on April 27th, 2009, 8:27 pm

yea, but there are a lot things that have changed in fleet operations some old stuff may not work as expected

posted on May 8th, 2009, 10:28 am

I also have this problem, that the ScaleSOD is not working. Does anyone solve this problem in the meantime? It seams, it has no effect, no matter what ship I want to resize.

It drives me crazy. You´ve edit the sprites, get the models to work, edit the .odf an then... Sovereign with the size of an Intrepid!

Please help!

thx

posted on May 8th, 2009, 10:30 am

as we dont use that command its not high on our todo, but we will take a look at it sometime

posted on May 8th, 2009, 10:59 am

In my opinion, it is important, because it´s like a great game reactivated, without a necessary command, needed for the big modding-community out there. 
Just to keep the game canon! The defiant is half the size of an intrepid, the intrepid half the size of a sovereign and so on....

Anyway, I keep on searching for this line in the ODF, which should be causing this! If you find the solution, please remember me  !

thx for your reply
maybe

[Lt.Cdr.White]

posted on May 8th, 2009, 11:17 am

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Apart from the ScaleSOD thingy, I'd be happy about any efforts (perhaps even by the FO team) to improve starship scaling.

I'd love to see Starfleet vessels closer to their correct sizes. For example a small Defiant class (would definitely not be too small to be usable, the Venture is already smaller, I think): A small Defiant class would be interesting concerning microing. Concentrating your fire on a moving Defiant would be more of a challenge as it would be harder to hit with the cursor.

I think the sizes on Ex Astris Scientia are pretty good:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... t-1060.jpg
Ex Astris Scientia - Fleet Charts

I made something similar to get a feel for the Discovery class, but the other's on the image are based on the sizes given on EAS, too:

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[Maybe]

posted on May 8th, 2009, 11:37 am

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Apart from the ScaleSOD thingy, I'd be happy about any efforts (perhaps even by the FO team) to improve starship scaling.

I'd love to see Starfleet vessels closer to their correct sizes. For example a small Defiant class (would definitely not be too small to be usable, the Venture is already smaller, I think): A small Defiant class would be interesting concerning microing. Concentrating your fire on a moving Defiant would be more of a challenge as it would be harder to hit with the cursor.

I think the sizes on Ex Astris Scientia are pretty good:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... t-1060.jpg
Ex Astris Scientia - Fleet Charts

I made something similar to get a feel for the Discovery class, but the other's on the image are based on the sizes given on EAS, too:

I agree! The scaling is very important for gameplay and modding. Remember, when a giant D'deridex Warbird decloakes in front of the Enterprise D, twice the size of the Galaxy? Or even the ugly Warbird Scimitar in Front of the Enterprise E in Nemesis.

Remember this on?
William Riker: Tough little ship. Worf: [incredulous] Little?

Scaling must be possible! There are realms of sites with ships-data, the fleet charts on Ex Astris are only one sample.

posted on May 8th, 2009, 4:46 pm

Scalesod just makes the model bigger or smaller than the size it was built at.

In the modelling program you can just scale the model itself, or when you build it, build it to the scale you want it, that way you don't NEED scalesod.

posted on May 8th, 2009, 6:08 pm

Scaling must be possible! There are realms of sites with ships-data, the fleet charts on Ex Astris are only one sample.

The problem is that, aside from a few ships like the Galaxy and Sovereign, most changed size each time they were shown.