any one misses the scimitar?

posted on June 25th, 2009, 6:37 pm

hey guys (and girls, don't know if there are any^^),

I just looked through the mod forum and I think the stuff you produce here is awsome. I am not very deep into edditing but I wondered if it is very hard to get a scimitar working for fleet ops?

a little while ago I saw the scimitar appear in the forums and I think the fleet ops team wanted to bring her in as a map object but I didnt hear anything about it afterwards.

I wonder if there are more who would love the scimitar in the game (I dont care if as a map object or a special unit for the romulans).

Since I have no clue how to do it, is there any enthusiastic modder who would get a scimitar into fleet ops?

posted on June 25th, 2009, 9:08 pm

Yeah, I miss stand-alone ships like the Scimitar, Highlander, Achilles, I miss them a lot. People keep persecuting me whenever I try to propose a stand-alone ship or propose adding strength to a certain race. I'm trying to get over a mental breakdown, but I agree with you. There once was a scrnsht of a mod where someone had the Remans. It was in fact sometime ago... can't remember when. So many people don't understand, I'm dependent on Stand-aloners for my strategies. People won't stop attacking my ideas. All of those guys have their aces. So I'll just wait a year or two before they even consider my ideas. But don't let that get in your way, try to jump in to the table while there is an opening... it is basically too late for me. 

posted on June 25th, 2009, 9:23 pm

Gamer,
I guarantee you that no one is persecuting you for your ideas, i'm saddened by the tone of your post and the fact that you feel this way but in my opinion you need to learn how to accept criticism.

When you propose adding 'power' to one specific race you must take into consideration how this affects the entire mod as a whole. Consider this an eco-system. If only one race has a 'shark' in this 'ocean' who do you think is gonna win?

I am not opposed to having the scimitar as a map object and I think your idea of adding the Remans as a new Race or a third avatar for the Roms would be FANTASTIC. Unfortunately, whether it happens or not isn't up to us... it's up to the developers. All we can do is trust that they are at least taking our suggestions into consideration; and i can ASSURE you is done on a day to day basis. Just ask Optec or Doca or anyone else in here.

I have been critical of your ideas in the past. If this hurt you I apologize, my only intention is to contribute to the process of creating or enhancing what I believe to be one of the greatest and most underrated total conversions in recent history.

We have a great thing here with FO, lets not ruin it with thoughts of being singled out and chastised for your ideas. This is a mod 'Community' after all....

Kind Regards,
quaddmgtech

posted on June 25th, 2009, 9:54 pm

It is just that everyone seems to be taking part of a set course of evolution of the game. I just seem to be rejected, and I came here thinking everyone woulld be welcoming to my ideas! 

[Dominus_Noctis]

posted on June 25th, 2009, 10:06 pm

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Don't worry Gamer, I'm sure some of your ideas will be implemented--I don't think anyone's ideas here have been 100% accepted (I sure as heck hope not, that would be quite strange).

Personally, I like the Scimatar as a map object--nothing more. It was a one-off prototype and Optec said in another thread about this subject and the Remans that it is quite unlikely that the Romies will ever let them rise to the occasion again (back to digging that dilithium). However, seeing them as mercenaries is a distinct possibility I think

Oh, and indeed there is at least one girl here that I know of:  my gf... though she doesn't check the forums often at all *gives raised eyebrow to gf*.

posted on June 25th, 2009, 10:23 pm

I'm gonna let you in on a secret that most people don't know..... The Final Frontier isnt going to be just a full race mod; we'll be adding other things like classic ships to the warpin, hero ships, possibly those stand-alone ships, and more! just let us get the cardies done first.
BTW gamer, i always welcome new ideas, as long as people are willing to understand the ideas may not work out completely. I even suggested a borg freighter idea recently that wasn't popular...

posted on June 25th, 2009, 10:56 pm

And now that little secret.... is outta there!

Hehe, yup, I was one of those who shot down that idea too ;-)
Obviously no personal intent meant, as I quite like many of RCIX's ideas

[Anubis]

posted on June 27th, 2009, 11:33 am

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so I guess there is no fleet ops mod with a scimitar or the remans out there.


I saw some awsome pictures of a reman mod for fleet ops in an other thread
         thread
         scimitar
but no one answered gamer if there is an actual mod behind the pictures. it looks like it but I guess the guy either only made a mod for himself or he just eddited the pictures and didnt actually code a mod.

posted on June 27th, 2009, 4:23 pm

thi8nk all the races should have 1 capital ship each with a major cost to them,would tip a battle in progress to allow a recovery,built like mammoth mark 3 in C & C 

posted on June 27th, 2009, 4:33 pm

Don't the races already have them? The Federation has the Descent to restore multiple ships/stations Shields (which can tip a battle if used right), the Dominion have the Dreadnought, the Klingons have the BortaS and it's Nebula, the Romulans have the Tavara and the Borg have most of their fleet.

[Pappy63]

posted on June 27th, 2009, 10:55 pm

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It is just that everyone seems to be taking part of a set course of evolution of the game. I just seem to be rejected, and I came here thinking everyone woulld be welcoming to my ideas! 

Not to dis you But  At  age 15 (per you profile)you feel the whole world is aginst you. I personally have had a lot of ideads shot down. But I don't take it personally. I fear you take   EVERYTHING Personally. I  fear you fail to Phanthom the reason why this site is so popular . I is that  most here who play aginst  can do so easily  with no having to jump through programming hoops. .Because  every ones  game is the SAME. If you lose it is not, because you got clobbered by a GOD ship with a billion offense points and a Trillion Defense points.  It is you fail to utilize  the  tools  and stratagy that best fits the  present tactical  situation at hand. You cant fight with one type of ship. It takes a combined (balanced for the task) taskforce of many types of ships each has its strengths and weakness's to win.

posted on June 27th, 2009, 11:01 pm

I would add the Executor to FO. Would be nice to see it killing a fleet of cubes.

posted on June 27th, 2009, 11:06 pm

A Colonel Xiomek avatar for the Romulans granting either a couple Reman ships or a separate Reman shipyard would be very cool. There's been some talk of a Tal Shiar avatar, but I think Helev already does a fine job representing the Tal Shiar...I mean, what else exactly would the Tal Shiar bring that Helev does not?

As for standalone ships, personally, I've never really cared for the idea of building hero ships, especially since the A2 game engine really doesn't have any limits on how many times a hero could be built. I know Spock was resurrected, and I know Data came back in the body of B-4 in the semi-canon "Countdown" comics, and I know the Enterprise-A was identical to the refitted Enterprise, but still...I have to say I think the Fleet Ops veteran system works really well, although it would be neat if the ranks were given names beyond "Level 2", "Level 3", etc.

posted on June 27th, 2009, 11:15 pm

I don't actually miss the scimitar itself, but I would like to see the remans included in a 3rd romulan avatar with Sela (as it is mentioned of her and them in apocrypha), having reman and romulo-reman ships with of course scimitaresque ships in their arsenal.

posted on June 28th, 2009, 4:11 am

If and when we get  a third Avitar  for  the Romulans I would no protest too much if an Scimitar type ship was available . However it should not be a "God Ship"as some feel it is.It should be smaller than a Tavara and no  bigger than A Norexian. and If it has a special ability they should not be a Uber one. Offense and defensive stats wise it should be between  the Norexian and the Tavara , with a limit of  maybe two, three max.