The Old Man's Maps

posted on July 5th, 2010, 1:23 pm

Treasure Chest (2 Players)

After 2 years I'm trying to find my way back into map editing and here we go with Treasure Chest a map for 2 Players.

Features:

• size: 9500x9500
• lots of nebulae
• some quiet places to chill out
• ...the Treasure Chest

There's one remote set of moons in the upper left corner for those who like to play it safe - or have already missed their chance to get their hands on the Treasure Chest in the centre of the map.
Surrounded by Mutara nebulae the Treasure Chest is located around a Class M planet offering lots of resources. And by lots I mean lots. 
Once you're there you don't want to lose this place.
But you'll find out for yourself if you decide to give the map a try 

Good Hunting!

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posted on July 7th, 2010, 6:14 am

very nice!  but just a little tip. try to avoid mutara ad blue nebs on maps as it give  borg an unfair advantage 

posted on July 7th, 2010, 6:58 am

very nice!  but just a little tip. try to avoid mutara ad blue nebs on maps as it give  borg an unfair advantage 

Thank you!

That's what I wasn't sure about. I first wanted to set blue nebulae 
I'll change that so that there will be another version for matches against Borg 

posted on July 7th, 2010, 4:12 pm

if you do add a blue/purple nebula, you could overlap it with a blocking asteroid so only a small part of it can be used. That way you won't find people hiding too many cubes.

posted on July 8th, 2010, 3:24 pm

I likes it the way it is. Plus, I rarely see what is so bad about these nebulas being a borg 'advantage'. I find no advantage when I play as borg.

posted on July 8th, 2010, 8:15 pm

Both those nebula knock out shields, effectively taking out one line of defence for all races except the Borg because they don't use shields.

If there is too much Purple and Blue then the Borg effectively have safe zones where they can annihilate anything and everything with much greater ease because they don't need to blast through enemy shields, wheras the enemy still have to blast through the same amount of Borg armour. They can cut off whole sections of the map, if those nebulae aren't planned effectively

Do you still see no advantage?

posted on July 8th, 2010, 8:34 pm

Thanks for all of your feedback so far! 

As announced there will be a second version of Treasure Chest allowing a fair match against Borg. Today I already changed the nebulae but I'm undecided concerning blocking elements because I think of an "open field" as one of the fun parts of the map. So probably they won't be in.
But one thing I keep thinking about are the nebulae. All of them give non-Borg a hard time which made me think about replacing the Mutara/Fluid Nebulae with Tetrion or Nucleon Nebulae. Both do damage to ships passing through them which would take out the hiding but both wouldn't leave anyone with a major advantage.
The catch about Tetrion/Nucleon is that you're pretty dead when you arrive inside the "Treasure Chest" while the Borg would be at least more alive anyway.... 
Uhm, maybe you just don't play this map with Borg? 
Dunno. I'd like to hear your suggestions

There's another map coming up (maybe in August), probably for 6 players which will work in a similar way but it won't have nebulae so it should be fine for everyone. 

posted on July 9th, 2010, 10:54 am

Treasure Chest b (2 Players)

b is for Borg 

Thanks to your feedback I have created a second version of Treasure Chest without Mutara Nebulae since they give Borg-players some unfair advantage. Treasure Chest b is the same as Treasure Chest but instead of Mutara Nebulae it features Chrystalid and Fluid Nebulae and a few blocking elements around the centre of the map.

Enjoy!

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posted on July 9th, 2010, 6:02 pm

you replaced mutara with fluid? thats nearly as bad. fluid help borg nearly as much as mutara.

posted on July 9th, 2010, 9:46 pm

Fluid nebulae just disable shields - Mutara disable sensors and shields 

posted on July 10th, 2010, 12:15 am

Fluid nebulae just disable shields - Mutara disable sensors and shields 

i know, thats why i said nearly as bad.

lots of fluids = borg win

posted on July 10th, 2010, 12:40 am

Unless I misunderstood, then your post is mixed up  : probably should be

you replaced mutara with fluid? thats worse. mutara help borg nearly as much as fluid.

posted on July 10th, 2010, 8:24 am

you replaced mutara with fluid? thats nearly as bad. fluid help borg nearly as much as mutara.

I know Some time ago there was a thread about Borg and the nebula-problem. Because of their strong ships you can place whatever nebula you want, Borg will have an advantage. As Treasure Chest is about lots of resources in the centre of the map protected by nebulae there's no way to just kick them out of the map 
As requested I tried to do something about the Mutara-problem and by replacing the Mutaras with Fluids and Chrystalids and adding some blocking triggers I hoped to offer a solution for those of us who like to have Borg on the field but do not want to be eaten in a nebula. Alas, there will be no real solution to that problem unless the devs come up with one 

posted on July 10th, 2010, 11:45 am

Unless I misunderstood, then your post is mixed up  : probably should be

i am of the opinion that mutara is more helpful to borg due to the sensor diabling effect. ships cant shoot into the nebula from the outside. i think that if u have 1 ship in a fluid then ships outside can fire in.

but if u have a borg ship in a mutara, any ship that wants to attack it will have to go in and lose its shields.

posted on July 11th, 2010, 6:01 am

Mutara has always been far better than a Fluid, as the Borg ship cannot attack ships that are outside the nebula while it is inside, as well as it is difficult to chase non-Borg ships in the Mutara . Ships can't shoot into the Fluid or Mutara nebulae incidentally