Where do you get ur Informations from?

[Ruediger83]

posted on December 18th, 2009, 1:32 am

Last edited by Ruediger83 on December 18th, 2009, 2:23 am, edited 1 time in total.

hey I just wanted to ask, where u get ur informations about the shipclasses, names etc from

because the site i use (http://memory-alpha.org) has lots of Informations, which are different to this game and STA2 etc.

eg

they say that the names Steamrunner, Akira and Sabre are not canon.
they say that these ships should have the names Appalachia, Yeager and Thuunderchild.


Is this true?

Or maybe i should not read memory-alpha. got better sources?

posted on December 18th, 2009, 1:40 am

Saber class - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki
Steamrunner class - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki
Akira class - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

Clearly Memory Alpha disagrees

posted on December 18th, 2009, 1:47 am

in the german memory Alpha:


http://memory-alpha.org/de/wiki/Appalachia-Typ

first sentence:

Es ist zu beachten, dass die Bezeichnung „Steamrunner-Klasse“ nach den Memory-Alpha-Canon-Richtlinien nicht zulässig ist, da sie in keiner Episode, beziehungsweise in keinem Film erwähnt oder gezeigt wurde. Daher wird dieser Raumschifftyp als Appalachia-Typ bezeichnet. Für weitere Informationen siehe hier.

free translation:

Caution: the name "Steamrunner-class" is in accordance with the Memory-Alpha-Canon-Rules NOT allowed, because this shipclass was never named in any series or movie.


...

Same sentence u find in the Akira and Sabre (or Saber?) article.

posted on December 18th, 2009, 2:14 am

If you go into the discussion though from that paragraph you'll see that it is brought up many times that the "Thunderchild, Yeager, and Appalachia" are all types and not classes. Furthermore, if you read the Alex Jaeger's notes about the three classes/ships (available in the English version of Memory Alpha) you can see that he expressly refers to the classes as Steamrunner, Akira, and Saber - while calling the individual ships by their registries (USS Thunderchild, Yeager, Appalachia with various prefixes of course). Even if the classes were not named in the movie, they were most definitely named by the production staff. A good example of a ship not named in a movie or film would be the Valdore-type. Akira, Saber, and Steamrunner however are bad examples as they are clearly named

[Ruediger83]

posted on December 18th, 2009, 2:17 am

Last edited by Ruediger83 on December 18th, 2009, 2:19 am, edited 1 time in total.

whats the difference between type and class?

i know that the ship was named valdore but the class is another.....

edit:

or is it:

a type LIKE ... (Akira, sabre etc?)

posted on December 18th, 2009, 2:24 am

Type refers merely to a ship of the specific class. The Enterprise (D), and Odyssey are both types of galaxy class starships. When an episode or show does not specify what class a named vessel belongs to, all similar vessels are simply called [name of the first vessel seen of that class]-type. Since the first Norexan we saw was called the Valdore, the official name until the class is known is the "Valdore-type" - or vessels that are of the same type as the warbird Valdore". Make sense?

Class is the entire production line: even though individual ships of a specific production line have different names, their class is the same. All modern US aircraft carriers are Nimitz-class, even if they have different individual names (Regan, Gerald Ford...  )

posted on December 18th, 2009, 2:26 am

oooookay understood

posted on December 18th, 2009, 8:40 am

Fleet Operations is based on a custom Star Trek universe, so there are small pieces where it is different. However most of the stuff is taken from official sources, like the shows, tech books or similar stuff. We all love the canon style and try to keep as much "crazy fan-tech" out of Fleet Operations as possible, but sometimes you have to do an agreement, like geting names for the Classes. We use the stuff thats accepted by the community. Just look at the Romulans for example. If we would only stick to canon stuff, they would have .. well.. only a hand full of ship classes.. counting the TOS bird!

posted on December 18th, 2009, 8:47 am

Fleet Operations is based on a custom Star Trek universe, so there are small pieces where it is different. However most of the stuff is taken from official sources, like the shows, tech books or similar stuff. We all love the canon style and try to keep as much "crazy fan-tech" out of Fleet Operations as possible, but sometimes you have to do an agreement, like geting names for the Classes. We use the stuff thats accepted by the community. Just look at the Romulans for example. If we would only stick to canon stuff, they would have .. well.. only a hand full of ship classes.. counting the TOS bird!

Aye ... and I remember hating that episode.  Even as a little kid I knew better than to trust the physics they threw at us in that show.

posted on December 18th, 2009, 4:00 pm

I think that akira was mentioned as a ship class in cannon.  atleast I thought it was, but to ,e it makes no difference whether or not they are called that.

however I think the Yeager was not the steamrunner.  I'm pretty sure the Yeager type starship is this'un





memory alpha says that the USS Yeager (NCC-61947), [is] a Saber-class starship
and that USS Yeager (NCC-65674), [is] a Yeager-type starship. IMO the Yeager type is an abomination, but that is just my opinion

posted on December 18th, 2009, 6:30 pm

@Ruediger83: if you would like to know more about the Fleet Operations timeline and technology you can check out the online guide for FO