The names

posted on December 23rd, 2008, 11:02 am

The ship names have been returned to the stock style of putting them in the ship file, how come?

The only practical use for that style is for getting them unique to the Class or adding Registries, but neither has been done.

posted on December 23rd, 2008, 11:58 am

armada loads a bit faster if you have one fully assembled file than having a lot of files that all get included. the odf files are put together by a script, so internally we still use the include design.

[Triarii]

posted on December 23rd, 2008, 4:33 pm

Last edited by Triarii on December 23rd, 2008, 4:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

armada loads a bit faster if you have one fully assembled file than having a lot of files that all get included. the odf files are put together by a script, so internally we still use the include design.

What, so you mean the ships are all still picking names from one big list? Ehh, I thought so... Damn, am I ever sick of seeing Mandrills named Victory and Mediterraneans named Renegade...

EDIT: By the way, is there supposed to be over seven thousand items in the "system" folder inside the "odf" folder?

posted on December 23rd, 2008, 5:06 pm

The ships have a list of names in their own odf, not a central list. The list is a lot smaller than the PR central one and is the same for every ship.

posted on December 24th, 2008, 3:25 am

The ships have a list of names in their own odf, not a central list. The list is a lot smaller than the PR central one and is the same for every ship.

(Emphasis mine)

Which hangs a big question mark over the point of having each ship ship pick from its own odf... If the lists of names are all the same anyway, what was the point of just copy-pasting the central list about a dozen times?

posted on December 24th, 2008, 7:39 am

(Emphasis mine)

Which hangs a big question mark over the point of having each ship ship pick from its own odf... If the lists of names are all the same anyway, what was the point of just copy-pasting the central list about a dozen times?

Its the same reason that a dll will load slower than static linking in compiling a program. By forcing Armada to fetch a central list you are making it go and look for another .odf file, which means read time on the Hard Drive, now doing this for every single ship means that read fetch must be done, however if you include the list internally in the odf structure, than when the odf is fetched so is the list, thus no second read is needed to fetch the name. Granted its not saving a massive amount of time, but given that the slow part of a computer is usually the hard drive when it comes to actual program execution, the speed is probably appreciable.

[Triarii]

posted on December 24th, 2008, 9:39 am

Last edited by Triarii on December 24th, 2008, 10:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

I see... Well, even though (I assume) the repeated names in the central list (such as "USS Faithful", which I pointed to in another thread a while back), the new system means two ships of different classes can still have the same name... Indeed, I tested this with a game set to unlimited resources and the fastest build time and I only had to build four fleets (half Mandrills and half Sabres) before I started noticing some of the names doubling up...





EDIT: You also haven't fixed the issue of the list having repeats of the same names...



...honestly, it's like you haven't touched the damn thing at all... You haven't have you?

posted on December 24th, 2008, 2:34 pm

yea we didn't change the naming sheme, its exactly like its in the PR. The files just might look a little different, as my Development tool compresses them for faster loading.

posted on December 24th, 2008, 2:55 pm

Forgive this noob, but, what file are the names kept in?  I'd like to add some to my own version.

posted on December 24th, 2008, 4:00 pm

Gah, found them in EVERY ODF.  It would take forever to add them...

posted on December 24th, 2008, 5:02 pm

Just use the list in PR, It's one list, I think, has more names.