Stardates?

posted on March 26th, 2006, 6:56 pm

I can't seem to translate these things into minutes! Can someone please help? +23.9 = Excelsior.. huh?! But I built them long before 20 minutes passed. Thanks.

posted on March 26th, 2006, 8:29 pm

seconds?

posted on March 26th, 2006, 9:44 pm

i am afraid i don't really get you, please explain.

posted on March 26th, 2006, 11:04 pm

from the time it took to build an excelsior class ship 23.9 star dates has passed in the game (if you look on the time line etc it says the star dates, he wants to know how many star dates to a second of real time etc, i think.

[hypercube]

posted on March 27th, 2006, 2:05 am

Last edited by hypercube on March 27th, 2006, 2:13 am, edited 1 time in total.

yeah....well that's a problem, i don't really know how the game calculates this, i do know how the shows use it.
the Next Generations They used 5-digit numbers, initially starting with 4 (symbolically to represent the 24th century), and followed by the season number. Within these thousand-unit ranges, sub-ranges were allocated to writers of episodes to use. After the first season, these increased monotonically between episodes. In Deep Space Nine and Voyager the same system was kept, incrementing to 48xxx in what would have been TNG season 8, and wrapping round to 50xxx and beyond in season 10.

In this era each television season is deemed to occupy a year of time in the Star Trek universe. This keeps the fictional universe running at the same rate as the real world, so characters age at the same rate as their actors. Thus, in this system, 1000 stardate units is just about an Earth year. It is also generally assumed that the stardate system is aligned such that a stardate divisible by 1000 is close to the start of a year in the Gregorian calendar. Specific Gregorian years have been mentioned in Star Trek: The Next Generation—and it seems that the calendar is still in common use outside Starfleet—but specific dates within the year have not appeared.

Within a single episode, TNG writers have most commonly increased stardates at the rate of one unit per Earth day, contradicting the 1000 units per year used on the larger scale. Although closer to a usable system than they were in the original series, stardates remain inconsistent and often arbitrary.

breaking this down, and acting on it i calculated that 1 earth minute is 2,7 stardate units. I have no idea if the game uses this, but there it is.

[seph]

posted on March 27th, 2006, 6:56 pm

Last edited by seph on March 27th, 2006, 6:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Thanks Eufnoc for clearing up my question and thank you hypercube for that comprehensive answer. It's very confusing. I think your calculations are a bit off though, according to my admiral's log it took +13.2 stardate units or about 5 minutes to build my first excelsior! I WISH. It takes more like 12 minutes for me to

[Atlantis]

posted on March 27th, 2006, 8:11 pm

Last edited by Atlantis on March 27th, 2006, 8:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Look in the odf for the excelsior. Take the number under build time.
Then divide that number by the difference in stardates ingame, when you build one. And that gives you the number of seconds per each A2 stardate. Simple.

[hypercube]

posted on March 27th, 2006, 11:08 pm

Last edited by hypercube on March 27th, 2006, 11:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

well, the game problably uses a different stardate calculation, try timing yourself and only build 1 ship, than look it up in the admiral's log.
and yes, i am a freak!

posted on March 28th, 2006, 6:13 pm

actually if you want to know the conversion rate look in the RTS_CTG.h file. In there is the conversion rate in there, I would look but a purged Flops from my computer months ago when I learned it contained uncredited work.

posted on March 28th, 2006, 7:43 pm

humm, i thought you was retiring and moving on from a2?

posted on April 12th, 2006, 6:17 pm

humm, i thought you was retiring and moving on from a2?

I am moving on, but I have decided to linger around a little

posted on April 14th, 2006, 2:08 pm

i never understood it and never will
its only there as a refrence point for when the show is syndicated