Quantum Singularities?

posted on November 9th, 2004, 4:26 am

In Star Trek, it is conisdered to be Black holes, but in real science, is it also known as Quantum Singularity, or is it just a fantasy word of ST?

[coolhandab]

posted on November 9th, 2004, 4:35 am

Last edited by coolhandab on November 9th, 2004, 4:37 am, edited 1 time in total.

not sure what you're asking here. in theory a quantum singularity is at the heart of every black hole, which definitely have finite volume and mass by the way

as far as the Romulans powering their ships with singularities, that makes no sense whatsoever and I think the ST guys just made that up because it sounds cool

posted on November 9th, 2004, 4:46 am

technicly, quantum singularities are a denser type of black holes

posted on November 9th, 2004, 5:12 am

well if anyone cares ...

the concept of density for a singularity is meaningless as it occupies zero volume and any traditional calculation of density (mass divided by volume) gives a nonsense answer of infinity (divide by zero). I am not familiar with the physics but it's been pretty soundly "proven" (no one has any real challenges to the theory) that singularities do exist at the center of all black holes, not just a superdense core of matter. The really interesting question is what the density of the matter "just outside" the singularity is, and why it isn't all sucked in instantaneously, and how much "room" there is "inside" a singularity, etc. etc. etc. It's all a real mindf*** basically.

posted on November 9th, 2004, 8:49 pm

Im saying that in Star Trek, Black holes are often refered as Quantum Singularities, Im wondering if Quantum Singularities have the same meaning as Black holes in real science

posted on November 11th, 2004, 7:53 pm

In practice, a singularity isnt a black hole specifically. It is a point in space that occupies zero volume and has infinate density (a finite mass inside zero volume).
A black hole can be throught of as the effect of a singulaity, so in essence, they are one of the same, although the singularity 'causes' the black hole.

However because a sinularity by definatition is a point in space occupying zero volume and infinate density, it can applied to more than just a black hole. The most obvious example is the the theory of where the universe came from... the entire universe was once contained in a singulaity before the big bang happened. (and if the theory of the big crunch holds true, and sinularity is what the universe will turn into once again... in a few trillion years)

posted on November 12th, 2004, 3:52 am

? i kinda lost it when it got into quantum physic...or whatever that is