Klingon supplys

posted on February 6th, 2010, 6:30 pm

is it me or do Klingon supply cost way to much you start with it 1125 the for the next one it 1275 the 1500 then 1800 then 2175 i dont think it that bad for the other races is it??

posted on February 6th, 2010, 6:34 pm

Klingon supply has double the cost. They seem to have been singled out, because everyone else has identical costs.

posted on February 6th, 2010, 6:35 pm

Yeah, it's expensive, but you get lots of supplys by destroying other ships, which is a klingon-specific feature, so I think it's quite fair.
Only problem is when fighting the Borg, because destroying a Borgship will cost a lot more supplies (in ship-form) than you will gain from destroying it...

posted on February 6th, 2010, 6:41 pm

ok ill try that way of play with them 

posted on February 6th, 2010, 7:10 pm

Only problem is when fighting the Borg, because destroying a Borgship will cost a lot more supplies (in ship-form) than you will gain from destroying it...

This depends more on your fleet. When you play Martok, simply make sure you get enough time to build enough Lus'Pet- and Negh'Var-battlecruisers and Sangs as a backup and the maximal weapon upgrades. This way, Spheres and Cubes as well as Diamonds are beat to hell quite fast. I've played a lot as Klingons the last week to test their weaponry for specific situations, and Martok is a good choice against Borg, unless you want to beat them in the beginning due to the torpedo-lack of his B'Rels and K'Vorts (the torpedo drone of his K'BeajQ makes up for that).

posted on February 6th, 2010, 8:04 pm

Yeah the Klingons do get supply back by killing, but quite frankly it's not handled in the best manner yet.

  Right now a ship gives supply back any time it ranks up.  However once it's a Rank 5 or Vet it can no longer give more supply because it can't rank up any farther .  Thus the ships that do the most killing (Vets) don't give any supply back.

  Also the supply you gain is directly related to which ship does the killing.  A Cube killed by a B'rel still only gives 3 supply back while a Neggie gives much more.

posted on February 6th, 2010, 8:17 pm

That's of course not perfect yet, but I don't think the devs are already done with this matter. They will find a way to make this more effective.
The best way for now is; Loose as less ships as possible, replace lvl-5 and 6 ships as soon as you have built new ships from the new supplies and this way, in the best possible case you have some large fleets to overpower the enemy bases. Also, as soon as you have three to four pairs of moons with full mining capacity, you won't have the problem of not being able to pay the expensive supplies from the base.

posted on February 7th, 2010, 8:30 pm

Well one of the reasons to have it the way it is now is to passively encourage Klingon players to climb the tech tree at least a little bit.  Right now the Kvort Spam or even B'rel spam works quite well, but they give back so little in terms of supplies that you are hit with a brick in the face when you finally have to buy supplies.

  A good combination of ships should do you quite well.  A few large Klingon ships supported by smaller ones will give you a better supply gain than you would get if you just spammed the smaller ones.

  Unfortunately the Kvort spam is still the best option if you want to WIN.  I, on the other hand don't enjoy spamming at all and would rather experiment with mixed fleets aggressively at the risk of losing .  I'm a fan of go with B'rel / Kvorts as a backbone and supporting them with Qaw'duj and Vorcha.  Phase out the B'rels and get Sangs to back up a core of Qaw'duj and Kvorts.  The Qaw'duj are really quite interesting now as they can be immune to specials and gain some nice stats while using Imperial Stance.  Once you've got them upgraded too you can lay down polaron fields whenever you get the chance!

posted on February 7th, 2010, 8:42 pm

Cost of the supply's needs to be lowered or this supply drop from killing needs to be worked out.

posted on February 9th, 2010, 12:55 pm

The unfortunate thing about the current system is, that you have huge amounts of supplies when you are successful from start in fights, and you can never recover from supply lack if you are unlucky in fight at the beginning.

I think the kingons need something like "emergency supplies". Perhaps a load of 100 supplies for free every 20mins.

posted on February 9th, 2010, 1:01 pm

From what I've heard, Trading will be back soon. The Klingons could get supplies from that.

posted on February 9th, 2010, 1:06 pm

Though trading seems not a klingon strength to me.

posted on February 9th, 2010, 1:21 pm

Doesn't need to be a strength, just needs to happen. They aren't above things like that, the Federation has a knack for influencing it's allies like that. Plus, they are smart enough to know a good military needs funds.

posted on February 9th, 2010, 1:34 pm

Well said!