Vet Sabers

posted on September 12th, 2010, 6:10 pm

So, I was just wondering who here thought that veteran Sabers were a bit... lacking in ECM terms. I personally think so, considering that they are the few ships to get anything relating to ECM at below officer rank. If you vote, please describe why you feel that way about it. If you say stay the same, please don't vote it again. That would throw off the results.

I personally feel that it should either randomize between XV or ECM, or Mayson's get better ECM, and Risner's stay the same. The first one, because it probably shouldn't get both XV and better ECM. That would be OP. The second one, because it would underline the separate avatar's priorities concerning the way they sway, with Risner being offensive, and Mayson being defensive.

Thoughts?

posted on September 12th, 2010, 6:12 pm

i voted for the last one.

good idea, mayson is the defence avatar. he would add ecm instead of MOAR DAKKA, while risner would want the guns and not the ecm.

posted on September 12th, 2010, 6:52 pm

I actually voted for the first and last option because a little torn on this.  On the one hand, its decent the vet abilities they get at the moment for such a small and cheap ship.  On the other hand, if you have managed to get such a little and weak ship to survive to vet level then it would be nice if it got something that enabled it to stay alive longer in mid-late game.

posted on September 12th, 2010, 9:44 pm

I'm glad that people agree that the Saber should get more "oomph" when veteran. Could we get some dev input on if this could be feasible for  balance?

I really like how many people like the idea of separate veteran boosts for different avatars. Could this be implemented?

posted on September 12th, 2010, 9:49 pm

It should be easy. Both avatars have their own rank-up odf's and entry in the veteran files for any avatar-specific ship. All that would be needed is to edit the veteran ship itself. It would be no different than avatar bonuses.

You'd need a seperate avatar-specific odf line for each ship that varies like this.

posted on September 12th, 2010, 9:51 pm

That part I know. What I was wondering was if it was feasible for balance to have more avatar-specific vet boosts. I suppose I wasn't too clear.

posted on September 12th, 2010, 10:00 pm

I dunno, the Vet Saber does quite a number on small vessels .  The Quantum pulse and the Type XV Phaser do a large amount of damage to the little nasties you'll likely be facing with Sabers.

  I dunno, they are on par with Veteran B'rels .

posted on September 12th, 2010, 10:27 pm

Why not try something else like giving them an M/AM Mine.

posted on September 12th, 2010, 10:31 pm

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

posted on September 12th, 2010, 10:33 pm

That would require a boost to their system value due to the special energy requirements, but shouldn't unbalance it too much. The mines are almost useless when used by a Sabre at full-range because they're short-ranged.

I agree with Boggz, though. The avatar bonuses already make the veteran one a little different.

posted on September 12th, 2010, 10:57 pm

I dont want them to loose XV Phaser,that would make it boring unit at veteran rank.Just make a ECM better

posted on September 13th, 2010, 12:18 am

I dont want them to loose XV Phaser,that would make it boring unit at veteran rank.Just make a ECM better

  Why?  It's a great ship already.

posted on September 13th, 2010, 12:28 am

  Why?  It's a great ship already.

why? Becose I like firepower 

[RedEyedRaven]

posted on September 13th, 2010, 12:39 am

Last edited by RedEyedRaven on September 13th, 2010, 12:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

why? Becose I like firepower 

1. Sabers on rank 6 get the XV-Phaser and thus they already are good in terms of firepower if compared to other vessels of their size.

2. Sabers aren't supposed to be the TV-Voyager. They still are light combat craft, no dreadnought-like Cube-killers.