Vessel map objects

[Njm1983]

posted on June 7th, 2010, 3:54 am

Last edited by Njm1983 on June 7th, 2010, 4:45 am, edited 1 time in total.

I was going through thoughts of ideas that have been rejected today, and I came to the conclusion that a reasonable request could be made. There are so many numerous types and classes of vessels that fans would love to see implemented into the actual core of gameplay but time and time again these ideas and vessels haven't been well recieved. So I'd like to request these vessels be added as map placeable objects with fully fleshed out special weapons and balance taken into consideration.

I'd love to see these vessels or changes added:

Prometheus Class - scale and crew changed to a more reasonable amount / size. MVAM be a veteran ability only.

Galaxy X Class - love to see it added, equipped with phaser cannon and cloak.

Wells Class - the timeship from voyager, a neat special might be a distortion field that slows time around the ship any vessels, stations, all are slowed while in the field. The wells clas can't move while active.
Romulan TOS D7 - though an extremely outdated design would love to see it.

Romulan TOS Bird of Prey - again another outdated design.

Reman Scimitar - properly balanced and not an uber ship. Wouldnt mind the thalaron weapon could be like th Bortas ion storm but only kills crew. Cloak fire if balanced with weapons fire draining special energy that eventually uncloaks the ship and a really slow energy recharge might balance it.

These are just some of my thoughts. I'm sure others wouldn't mind these vessels being added as map objects I'm just requesting them and in addition they have thought out specials and consideration to balance, so should any of these be placed on a map as a capturable vessel they don't ruin gameplay. Thoughts?

posted on June 7th, 2010, 4:13 am

personally i wouldnt like them that way  but it would b nice to go through a nebula and find a old romulan bird of prey or a constitution (erm forgot how it spelt )kirks ship 

posted on June 7th, 2010, 8:46 am

i would love to see the NX class, xindi, kazon, andorian and of curse cardassian ships

posted on June 7th, 2010, 1:41 pm

nx class: thats weaker than weak in fleetops times. it would be outclassed by a scout most likely.

prometheus: devs have nearly ruled out mvam unless a really clever idea makes it possible without being silly. they may include non-mvam prommies.

galaxy-x: i hope not, that was a silly class. please no cloaks for fedrats. and that ship was part of an alternate future that probably doesn't exist anymore.

wells class: thats the complete opposite of the nx, its from the 29th century, fo is set near the end of the 24th so i doubt 22nd or 29th century ships will appear much. the wells class would outclass everything. unless it was the weakest ship of its time by a huge amount.

D7/TOS BoP: D7 is even older than k't'inga so i doubt it lol. i agree some of these would be good as map objects, but i would never place them on a map as they would be so so weak.

Scimitar: no thanks, never liked that design, it was stupid.

posted on June 7th, 2010, 3:22 pm

To be honest, I'd much rather see some npc type ships, from lesser races, along with accompanying scripting which would allow you to give them simple tasks to complete. Then add the option, in game, of hiring them, depending on who they are.

posted on June 7th, 2010, 5:11 pm

I wouldn't mind most of those ships as NPC placable objects and such just so that we as map-makers can have oodles of fun making events.

  I think some of those ships are on the "to-do" list on the forum home-page.

posted on June 7th, 2010, 5:32 pm

problem with most of them is they are either really old or really really really far in the future. they would either be completely useless or completely super powerful. the nx class doesnt even have shields. its defense value would have to be 0.5 and its phase cannons are weak too. the wells class is 29th century, it has the power to send people through time. imagine sending an operative to before a ship was created and planting a bomb to splode it. plus its normal weapons have to be pretty powerful, even if it's the very weakest of its fleet at the time it would easily rule over fo ships.

[Tyler]

posted on June 7th, 2010, 5:35 pm

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Wells Class would make a great 'Observer' ship, with a possibly once-a-game Special weapon (titles 'Kick from the Timeline') that calls a Kick player vote.

posted on June 7th, 2010, 5:43 pm

Wells Class would make a great 'Observer' ship, with a possibly once-a-game Special weapon (titles 'Kick from the Timeline') that calls a Kick player vote.

i like that idea

[RedEyedRaven]

posted on June 7th, 2010, 6:18 pm

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There are some ships on to do by the devs for certain. At least the Aegian class from stock A2, the TMP and TOS Constitution and the TMP Miranda. Scimitar is also mentioned in the guide as an NPC-unit that "may rip apart your base one day", also the Prometheus could appear when the devs find a role for it and a way to make MVAM look more realistic in-game (so that you can select the seperated ship as a squad and not as three single units).


Edit:

galaxy-x: i hope not, that was a silly class. please no cloaks for fedrats. and that ship was part of an alternate future that probably doesn't exist anymore.

There's no proof for that ship not being existant in the original timeline, and in fact it wouldn't be the first "all good things-future" vessel that exists in canon, namely the Olympic-class (aka Hope-class according to MA). Also we have the Negh'var subtype from that alternate future already ingame unless it promotes to veteran and turns into the Negh'var we saw in Voyager: Endgame x) which is also used to be alternate timeline because some small details of that ship are not existant on the original DS9-Negh'Var.^^

I only agree with the cloak, because the treaty of Algeron seems to be still valid in FO.

posted on June 7th, 2010, 7:01 pm

Well Im glad this thread came to some use.

I had some further thoughts about some of the vessels mentioned above:

Scimitar - should be a refit ship with options to refit. pick one and thats what your stuck with.

Battleship with a cloak-fire special.
Thalaron Weapon
Carrier

I love the idea of the Wells Class being the observer ship - you could get away with using the Krenim timeship in that instance too. Would be neat if all observers could be randomly selected timeships - with that special that boots a player - long as the booting cant be abused.

If anyone else has some good suggestions for map vessels please do post. Im talking about one off ships or variants that arent planned for use as NPC's or inclusion in actual races techtrees.

posted on June 7th, 2010, 9:00 pm

I love the idea of the Wells Class being the observer ship - you could get away with using the Krenim timeship in that instance too. Would be neat if all observers could be randomly selected timeships - with that special that boots a player - long as the booting cant be abused.

Oh the Observers should stick to observing... but this Idea reminds me of the "Temporal Cold War" differnent Factions observing certain battles in the past...

posted on June 7th, 2010, 9:11 pm

Observers controlling even Ferengi Marauders is a problem. There is a reason why observers are called that