unique warp in ship

[Anonymous]

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 12:21 am

Last edited by Anonymous on May 23rd, 2010, 6:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I was thinking that the Warp in needs another unique ship in addition to the Descent class maybe 60-40 or 80-20 chance between them favoring the Descent.  and this one does not get to be built in the McKinley yards only available via warp in.  As for the class of ship  perhaps the Vesta class http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Vesta_class dunno i just think there should be at least 2 experimental ships

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 12:26 am

Another experimental Warp-In I agree with.

Instead of giving them both, how about making it avatar specific? Or reversing the ratio for each avatar.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 12:42 am

eh just another ship 50/50 shot you get one or the other anyway i believe something is planned. O one other thing if you have a descent already you should get the other class instead of another descent.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 12:47 am

eh just another ship 50/50 shot you get one or the other anyway i believe something is planned. O one other thing if you have a descent already you should get the other class instead of another descent.

    yea that would be logical. 
I am kinda biased towards the Vesta class as I am online friends with its designer.

[Nebula_Class_Ftw]

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 2:00 pm

Last edited by Nebula_Class_Ftw on May 23rd, 2010, 4:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Does look like quite an awesome (and [almost] canon  ) ship. Btw something is wrong with your link, it doesn't seem to work (article does not exist), yet it is indeed the exact url of the article; clicking your link and then hitting enter with the cursor in the address bar brings up the page correctly. Also something may be wrong with Memory Beta as the search feature on the site seems to not work half the time.

EDIT: I just noticed there's a space in the url you typed (after the word class.)
EDIT 2:Oh that's right ST novels don't count as canon, they really should though.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 3:52 pm

how about the promethies? and we could have mvam? or somthing else, for a special, but i think promethius would fit that experimental ship slot.

Or maybe the dauntless from voyager, i know starfleet didnt make it, but it was a cool ship

or maybe somthing like a black ops or section 31 definant, or the pegasus..... idk....

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 4:03 pm

about the prometheus, there is already one in fleetops, you can place it via map editor i believe. its not terribly powerful. and on my computer when u push the mvam button it crashes.

i loved the mvam effect in voyager, it looked amazing, but i agree with the idea that it is rather silly. i wouldnt want a mvam prommie in fleetops, maybe in the intro, for a good effect, but not for battle.

maybe they could introduce it like this:

starfleet built the prototype from voyager and it turned out to be crap, so they shelved the designs for a while, then they came up with the idea of changing it.

firstly they of course removed the idea of using mvam to increase combat effecitveness. so maybe veteran prommies can do it as a last resort escape pod idea.

i would go for something less powerful than the descent offense and defence wise, but maybe a cool set of special weapons, like a support ship. not 3 specials, only 2, as it didnt start life as a support ship. and because it has three warp cores (left over from mvam design) it has good special weapon energy recharge. and its specials are very effecitve. sort of a heavy support ship. this would make me want it a lot to support my fleet.

maybe i would do 2 standard warpins and then one experimental, hoping for a prommie to support my fleet with nice special weapons.

the annoying thing is we already have so many cool specials that new ones might seem redundant.

what could we have as some new specials?

perhaps make it have a rapid response special weapon. its got way more engines than it needs, as it was designed to serve as three separate ships. so clicking rapid response would drain most of its energy and allow it to very quickly move large distances. allowing it to rescue miners from harassers. or escape after harassing

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 4:08 pm

The Devs have stated that the Promie will not be a playable ship in FO.  No more than a map object.

But I'm totally for the idea of more experimental ships.  My first choice, I think, would be a Galaxy mk2 though

[Canny]

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 4:19 pm

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memory beta doesnt have anything on this vesta class but i would rather have a prometheus jump in, balance the op torp turret out and give em the prometheus while risner gets the descent, couldnt hurt. btw i am bias towards canon ships not made up classes but it is interesting how its all worked out, that monsoon class is similar to the incursion in ship design and perhaps the defiant.

http://img256.imageshack.us/i/incursion2375.jpg

the remore looks like home one from star wars.

http://img132.imageshack.us/i/homeone.jpg

the canaveral looks like something from the 22nd century, close warp nacelles to the saucer section much like the intrepid class ship from 2150.

http://img241.imageshack.us/i/intrepid2150.jpg

but since the devs dont want the prometheus, i would say a Titan class cruiser may work, its been published in several books.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Titan_(NCC-80102)

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 4:21 pm

actually memory beta does have an article on vesta class.

and the titan was luna class according to the non canon sources, following canon we can only call it the titan-type, because the only ship of the class we know is the titan.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 4:28 pm

you took the descent and that is pure fiction.. i cant see the problem with the luna class.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 4:42 pm

Luna Class is not canon, but is still official (there is a difference). Exactly the same as the Akira, Norway and many other named classes.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 5:35 pm

Luna Class is not canon, but is still official (there is a difference). Exactly the same as the Akira, Norway and many other named classes.

i consider the akira class close to canon, it was seen in canon, and the designer called it the akira class.

the titan never appeared in canon, it was only mentioned, nobody involved in making nemesis ever decided what it was going to look like or what class it was going to be. the design in the books was fan submitted i believe and as far as i know the name luna was originated by a book.

therefore i will accept akira class as true, but i wont accept luna class.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 5:43 pm

As I said, it's not canon but is official. Which is still like the Akira and Norway, since their names come from official sources but were never mentioned in canon.

Didn't I say canon and official are different? People seem to have a 'pick-and-choose' opinion of the designers ideas.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 5:49 pm

repeating a flawed point doesnt make it stronger

the akira was designed by a credited person involved in the making of the show, it was named outside of canon by the same person.

the titan was never designed by the makers of nemesis, it was mentioned in passing. all we know from nemesis is that there exists a ship in starfleet called uss titan, and that riker is now stupidly leading its crew to their early deaths.

the name "luna class" and the design of the ship are FAN originated. thats why i wont accept them. im not saying they are stupid or implausible, i like the design, but i dont consider it official, seeing as it was a FAN that made both the design and the name.

memory alpha has an article on the akira class, but not on the "luna class".