Starbase and more

posted on November 15th, 2009, 12:41 pm

I was playing again(big surprise! lol), and I got to looking at the Fed starbase.  What about something like maybe when you upgrade it, it goes through stages of appearance?  Like say..you do 1 weapon, 1 defense upgrade on it it changes to..I don't know the Regula class station.  Then when you fully upgrade it its appearance changes to the large cone starbase.

More was I was wondering what happened to the "vessel movement" option.  There used to be an option you could turn on and off that would have the ships move around during combat instead of just picking one spot and sitting there firing.

posted on November 15th, 2009, 3:36 pm

Hmm I imagine this is probably on the to do list, much like Vessels are going to be changing (in terms of design) through there stages of ranking up.

I'd think it its something there working on 

posted on November 15th, 2009, 4:58 pm

I was playing again(big surprise! lol), and I got to looking at the Fed starbase.  What about something like maybe when you upgrade it, it goes through stages of appearance?  Like say..you do 1 weapon, 1 defense upgrade on it it changes to..I don't know the Regula class station.  Then when you fully upgrade it its appearance changes to the large cone starbase.

More was I was wondering what happened to the "vessel movement" option.  There used to be an option you could turn on and off that would have the ships move around during combat instead of just picking one spot and sitting there firing.

Number one has been discussed before, but I don't believe there are any plans to change the appearance at the moment - perhaps for something far off. There is a mod in progress... but its developer (Redmanmark) has been quite busy as of late, so it will be delayed. Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations - Meet the Starbase!

Number two is on todo to fix for quite some time, but is low priority - quite difficult to re-add "Developer's Cut".

posted on November 16th, 2009, 3:35 pm

Re-add? Shouldn't be too hard, the Devs did take it out after all, I wonder why?

posted on November 16th, 2009, 6:08 pm

Nah, they only "took it out" because it is completely incompatible with the current coding (i.e. it didn't work). Same dealio with certain formations I believe.

posted on November 16th, 2009, 6:15 pm

the good old starbase mod, not long till xmas and my work load will go down for me to get back on to that...

neway directors cut is hard to return because the code to make it work was taken out by stupid Maddoc, the code isn't in the engine anymore...

posted on November 16th, 2009, 6:17 pm

But its in A2?

posted on November 16th, 2009, 6:22 pm

never played the original A2 so can't comment, but i thought MadDoc removed it to add loads of formations instead...

posted on November 16th, 2009, 7:56 pm

I promise you that you can get your ship to move in a cicle, strafing back and forth, and in a clover leaf shape when attacking another ship. It's all there.

posted on November 16th, 2009, 8:39 pm

I promise you that you can get your ship to move in a cicle, strafing back and forth, and in a clover leaf shape when attacking another ship. It's all there.

Yeah that's indeed true - but I think it's still broken for FO 

posted on November 16th, 2009, 8:55 pm

I don't get why? Different physics?

posted on November 16th, 2009, 9:01 pm

Hmm, I don't know actually  . Never bothered to ask Optec, but we have a few quotes from him about it:

a better infight movement system is on todo, but it will take a while

yep, and this is why we took them out. they don't work with fleet operations and are unlikly to be reimplemented. you can use the movement autonomy (which has been enhanced) to set ki scripts for your vessels. but there will be additional "normal" formations

posted on November 16th, 2009, 9:02 pm

Hmm I would like a more in-deth explanation

posted on November 16th, 2009, 9:04 pm

Oh, and found this too:

yea, there are still a lot other issues in the battle system of armada...
i just made a rough implementation of the "directors cut", it would need a lot more tweaking and testing before it is really usable again..

i have played a bit to get that feature back in armada 2. it basically is, as in the formations menu you can select an attack pattern that is exactly the movement you have from armada 1. and yes, it is a big difference in gameplay, as ships would start moving in to attack other vessels and so loose their advantage of long range weaponry plus it makes your ships harder to control. i'd really like to have that back in fleet operations too, but it didn't work out so well when i tested it in fleet operations..

posted on November 16th, 2009, 9:10 pm

Indeed... In concept this is an awesome feature... in actual implementation not so much.