Romulan ideas

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 3:16 pm

The idea of the Romulans, generally, is they have strong cloaks and they like to hide their true strength until they are ready to strike with overwhelming force.  While Romulans certainly possess some strong capabilities, I am not confident this "decloak-and-strike-heavy" is well represented, so I propose some additions to the Romulan ship line, in the form of "strike" vessels that don't have munch "normal" punch, but have several heavy long-recharge weapons they unleash the moment they de-cloak, maybe a newer version of the TOS-era plasma bolts with similar effects of heavy damage to shields and ship systems on an initial strike.  For balance and canon-realism, after this first strike, it should probably take so long to recharge these heavy weapons that these strike ships really wouldn't fare well in extended combat.  Being designed for heavy hit-and-run, they might also sacrifice shields a bit.

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 4:20 pm

Your Information is Incorrect The romulan Proved In The dominion War That Their Ships Don't Need To Hit And Run For them To Get Their Job Done

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 4:28 pm

I agree with the admiral, besides the Romulans are getting an overhaul in forthcoming patches.

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 4:45 pm

Hopefully they won't we so dependent to where 50% of their strength relies on rather unreliable SPW...

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 4:47 pm

Your Information is Incorrect The romulan Proved In The dominion War That Their Ships Don't Need To Hit And Run For them To Get Their Job Done

You mean aside from the fact their ships -- even their flagship -- got torn apart in large battles when they could not make surprise hit and run engagements.  The Romulans only really saw success in their initial surprise attacks.  Their lines collapsed and their flagship was destroyed in extended campaigns.

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 4:52 pm

You mean aside from the fact their ships -- even their flagship -- got torn apart in large battles when they could not make surprise hit and run engagements.  The Romulans only really saw success in their initial surprise attacks.  Their lines collapsed and their flagship was destroyed in extended campaigns.

2 words... Overwhelming numbers. The same reason the Dominion/Cardassian Alliance was slaughtering the Federation Alliance.

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 5:02 pm

Even the Feds and Klingons were getting torn to bits by the Dommies.  The Feds with their ridicu-shields, and the Klingons with their ships that have no real use other than combat, and their culture that revolves around war.

And I'm sure that after the first few times the Dominion tasted Plasma Torpedo, they issued a focus-fire order to the Jem'Hadar, aimed at the D'deridex-class vessels.

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 5:07 pm

Overwhelming numbers wouldn't come into play if they used supreme hit and run tactics ... hit, absorb a few hits while you recloak, find a quiet place to repair and recharge, get back into it.  That tactic inherently does not work well for helping out allies, though ... they have to absorb a lot more hits while you are recharging.  Alone, though, the Romulans should be a serious menace ... WTF, how'd this hewj fleet suddenly appear right at my base while my forces were out hunting for 'em?!  OHNOEZ they launched a supervolley, my economy's been shredded ... I'm sending some interceptors at 'em but they've already re-cloaked and moved off!

In terms of fleet engagements and loss of ships, the Romulans seemed to fare worse than the Federation or the Klingons.  As I said, as they have been represented, the Romulans are, I think, well summed-up in "Star Trek:  Birth Of The Federation" -- they do not attack what the enemy defends, they do not defend what the enemy attacks, to be unknown is to be undefeatable.  

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 5:12 pm

To me the Dom is one giant spamming race, in the game Dominion Wars one of the briefings talked about how the Torros shipyards were producing at such a rate that every 2 ships that get destroyed have 3-4 others taking its place (almost a 200% production rate vs loses ). It is obvious that the Dominion race focuses more on quantity than quality. Because 8 crappy crusiers can defeat one really cranked up one.

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 5:16 pm

... Because 8 crappy crusiers can defeat one really cranked up one.

how true.

where have we seen that in action before,  oh yeah  WW2.

Sherman VS Panzer

the americans couldn't build a better tank, they could just build more of them

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 5:19 pm

Overwhelming numbers wouldn't come into play if they used supreme hit and run tactics ... hit, absorb a few hits while you recloak, find a quiet place to repair and recharge, get back into it.

Yes it will... Even if they can't use their numbers to full effect, attacking a Decloaking ship will wear down the Romulans alot faster than the Dominion. Decloak outside of their weapon range will give them more time to target the weapons of multiple ships on you.

Cloaking isn't infallible and can be quite useless in large fleet battles because of friendly-fire.

In terms of fleet engagements and loss of ships, the Romulans seemed to fare worse than the Federation or the Klingons.  As I said, as they have been represented, the Romulans are, I think, well summed-up in "Star Trek:  Birth Of The Federation" -- they do not attack what the enemy defends, they do not defend what the enemy attacks, to be unknown is to be undefeatable. 

The only times the Romulans were shown to take heavy losses were in the Second Battle of Chin'Toka (Breen Energy Dampener) and the Invasion of Cardassia (the Dominion's entire Armada).

posted on September 23rd, 2009, 6:25 pm

Not to mention that the Romulans single handedly liberated one planet (can't remember the name) and inflicted some heavy loses to the dominion as they had to withdraw a large number of ships from the Federation front to counter them(DS9:Tears of the prophets). And in the counter attacks the Dominion mounted after the loss of Chintoka the Romulans took on the brunt of the enemy forces(DS9: Shadows and symbols)

In my opinion the Romulans are fine now and almost unbeatable in the hands of a good commander (generix support refit anyone?)