Rigel: Abort construction

posted on April 28th, 2011, 8:47 pm

Would it be possible to add an "Abort Construction" button to the Rigel nebula class?

Once you activate their construction special they can't do anything even if the entire Romulan or Klingon fleet decloaked next to them. Seems a bit silly unless those Starfleet engineers are Japanese with a banzai attitude.

posted on April 28th, 2011, 8:50 pm

well while they are building the stuff takes up engineering space and is probably risk to start disassembling. just trying to justify the desire to keep it tied up when building for balance reasons.

i think you should calculate the risk of using it.

posted on April 28th, 2011, 8:56 pm

I think aborting the process would be out of place for a combat vessel since it does not have the equipment and crew like a construction ship has.

The Rigel has the option to set up light to medium (if veteran) defence platforms in order to keep say, a just blown up enemy expansion from being used again shortly after. Conclusive you should never leave it back alone, happily building up the platform just to have decloaking, warping in or closing in enemy vessels right on their way there too.

posted on April 28th, 2011, 9:45 pm

Refitting and constructing turrets is designed to be non-reversible - consider is as the ship putting all its resources and processes to work and once the machinery is installed and operating, it'd be bad, even dangerous, to stop it  .

In terms of balancing, keep in mind you can place those turrets anywhere, so you have to make that commitment

posted on April 28th, 2011, 11:26 pm

I'm not buying it T.B.H

It's being build inside the vessel and randomly transported into a position. If you want balance then have cancellation have a cost (resources lost + special energy) or damage to the vessel.

No sensible captain will sacrifice his/her ship to place a turret.

I'd rather see the possibility of choosing a location and building it constructor style instead of the turret being warped in after X delay (which is assumed building time).

If balance is an issue the cancellation cost and a possible timer Descent style could solve the problem.

posted on April 29th, 2011, 10:06 am

well if they were fiddling with nadions in building and suddenly cancelled, the nadions could explode, and that would be like loads of phaser fire gutting the ship from the inside. easily enough to splode it completely.

posted on April 29th, 2011, 10:29 am

But if it does die, won't you lose 80 odd supply for nothing?

posted on April 29th, 2011, 10:32 am

But if it does die, won't you lose 80 odd supply for nothing?

im suggesting not allowing it to cancel. as the risk of cancelling would be too great.

posted on April 29th, 2011, 2:35 pm

i'm currently considering cancelation for the Rigel Nebula, but without returning energy and only returning half of the supplies. What do you think?

posted on April 29th, 2011, 2:39 pm

I''m neutral, but if they're devioting their time and effort to building it, it would be odd for it to simply vanish.

Maybe cancellation could be possible during the first 10-20 seconds? It should be easier to stop when just starting.

posted on April 29th, 2011, 2:58 pm

i'm currently considering cancelation for the Rigel Nebula, but without returning energy and only returning half of the supplies. What do you think?

i think thats ok.

is it intended that you can decom the turrets for normal res? maybe they should only give back some supply.

posted on April 29th, 2011, 5:18 pm

That would be a reasonable solution Optec

posted on April 29th, 2011, 7:58 pm

I like that too, although I'm mean and think you should lose all of your supply if you cancel.  Why?  Because the goal of the cancel is to save the ship.  You can have your ship, but all that equipment floating in space is lost.  Though I think I want it this way mostly because I'm mean. >:D 

posted on April 29th, 2011, 8:12 pm

mal's suggestion would be fine with me too. i prefer mals slightly. maybe go for middle and have 10 supply given back as some of it is reusable.

posted on April 29th, 2011, 9:24 pm

You can have your ship, but all that equipment floating in space is lost.

Humm..

crap floating in space + Myles' reference to Nadion-particles = "We're under attack, so just stop building, open the doors and blast all of it out the cargobay!"

Which also equals Nadion particles floating around and letting dangerous radiation behind which could have a similar effect to the officer-Akira's antimatter-dust.