rework of the dominion Breen avatar

posted on January 7th, 2009, 1:56 am

so I dont know if it is just me but frankly I feel that yu should not have to bild prototype breen ships. I also think that Cardie ships should be included in a future update. thus enameing breen to Dom allies.

i would type more dtailbut my keybord has decided "I dont feel like behaving right now"

posted on January 7th, 2009, 2:05 am

Cairo This is thare mod if they wont to put Garge Bush on the avatar they can.

You may wont to rephrase your request is sound like you are telling how it "should" be.

But now that that said I agree that I would like to see more breen in the domains fleet one or too more ships would be welcome or one and a breen stare base or defense station of some sort.

posted on January 7th, 2009, 2:13 am

I think the Breen Allies are fine the way they are from a functional and balanced point of view. Realistically though they would not build their ships from Dominion yards and should have their own separate shipyard. I'd also like to see a third Breen ship added at the cost of maybe kicking off a Dominion ship. Also... it would be awesome if the Puretech Avatar was renamed Weyoun and the Breen Allies renamed Thot Gor... but that's just me.

posted on January 7th, 2009, 2:14 am

Maybe one of the Dominion starting ships could be a Breen Construction ship that builds a Breen shipyard and turret (maybe Starbase) that come up as Breen ships instead of Dominion ones.

posted on January 7th, 2009, 7:34 am

Isnt there another topic about that same subject? Search b4 you post, ok ? 
Look there for anwsers of your questions

posted on January 7th, 2009, 9:15 am

In the Fleet Operations timeline, the Dominion started to build large yard complexes in Breen space, in order to commence their long-scale goal of dominating the Alpha Quadrant. Repair, refit and construction yards are required. As the Dominion war ended quite suddenly, the Breen fall back into their isolation, preparing for the return of their allies (of course there are also Jem'Hadar and Vorta in Breen space.. even a Founder). They didn't even notice the Dominion and the Federation signed a non-agression-act.
Therefore the Breen Technology is much deeper integrated into the Dominion yard structure then any other would. The next avatar will probably feature its own yard complex for allied vessels

The Cardassians have betrayed the Dominion, they have failed the Dominion and the Dominion itself has changed much. They will never be allies again and therefore wont be a Dominion Avatar.

More about the Dominion and their struggles once i found some free time to write up the whole storyline

posted on January 7th, 2009, 5:32 pm

Isnt there another topic about that same subject? Search b4 you post, ok ? 
Look there for anwsers of your questions

Didn't I start the other thread?

posted on January 7th, 2009, 5:42 pm

Quote from: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on Today at 08:34:57 AM
Isnt there another topic about that same subject? Search b4 you post, ok ?
Look there for anwsers of your questions Smiley

Didn't I start the other thread?

I have no idea who started it, I was just point out though (for everyone) that there already exists such a thread

posted on January 7th, 2009, 5:55 pm

In the Fleet Operations timeline, the Dominion started to build large yard complexes in Breen space, in order to commence their long-scale goal of dominating the Alpha Quadrant. Repair, refit and construction yards are required. As the Dominion war ended quite suddenly, the Breen fall back into their isolation, preparing for the return of their allies (of course there are also Jem'Hadar and Vorta in Breen space.. even a Founder). They didn't even notice the Dominion and the Federation signed a non-agression-act.
Therefore the Breen Technology is much deeper integrated into the Dominion yard structure then any other would. The next avatar will probably feature its own yard complex for allied vessels

The Cardassians have betrayed the Dominion, they have failed the Dominion and the Dominion itself has changed much. They will never be allies again and therefore wont be a Dominion Avatar.

More about the Dominion and their struggles once i found some free time to write up the whole storyline

You are an ***********! You cant do that!  Who told you such stories? I gotta catch him! :fish:

[Anonymous]

posted on January 7th, 2009, 6:16 pm

Last edited by Anonymous on January 7th, 2009, 7:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

In the Fleet Operations timeline, the Dominion started to build large yard complexes in Breen space, in order to commence their long-scale goal of dominating the Alpha Quadrant. Repair, refit and construction yards are required. As the Dominion war ended quite suddenly, the Breen fall back into their isolation, preparing for the return of their allies (of course there are also Jem'Hadar and Vorta in Breen space.. even a Founder). They didn't even notice the Dominion and the Federation signed a non-agression-act.
Therefore the Breen Technology is much deeper integrated into the Dominion yard structure then any other would. The next avatar will probably feature its own yard complex for allied vessels

The Cardassians have betrayed the Dominion, they have failed the Dominion and the Dominion itself has changed much. They will never be allies again and therefore wont be a Dominion Avatar.

More about the Dominion and their struggles once i found some free time to write up the whole storyline

nice storyline.
If i could continue  :sweatdrop:
The Dominion in the Gamma quadrant have undergone a makeover. Odo's goodie goodie approach has left its mark. the Dominion in the Gamma quadrant has started to mellow a little. not completely but certainly the Founders are listening to what Odo has to say about solids.

In the Alpha quadrant the remnant of the dominion in Breen space is not so forgiving. The Founder remaining in Breen space does not consider solids as being worth anything more than traitors who befriend only when weak or pushing an ulterior selfish motives. Using his skewed vision of 20th century earth history, he views Odo as an indoctrinated outcast who is inadvertently subverting the Dominion for the Feds.

Seeing the peace treaty as an opportunity to rebuild, he orders the Breen into seclusion. the Breen and the Dominion rebuild all they have.

In the meantime, the cardassians are growing weary of the ridiculous terms of the Peace treaty. Having been forced to abandon all claim to Bajor and the outlying systems, while being subject to Federation/Klingon terms of supervised rebuilding to make sure cardassia;s military past does not take hold, the Cardassians feel the Peace treaty was nothing more than a Federation Versailles. The cardassian civilian population and fledgling government hold to ideals of the Detapa council and Garak, and are more than ready to rebuild with federation help.
The military wing of the Cardassian remnant splits. Some who witnessed the massacre by the Dominion view the new Cardassia as a return to their artistic and culturally enlightened past. Others view the Dominion massacre as something Cardassia brought upon itself for betraying the Dominion at the apogee of all out War. The military and Obsidian order would have done exactly the same thing were another race to betray CArdassia the way Cardssia betrayed the Dominion.
Disillusioned by the new pacifist trend on Cardassia, this faction deserts and approaches the founder/Breen alliance seeking to return to the old Cardassia that retook Terok nor under Dukat.
The founder would rather obliterate the Cardassians for the past betrayal as after the past betrayal no Cardassian is worth even being spit upon by the Dominion.
however, the founder needs all the allies he can get in the alpha Quadrant. The cardassians know the current fleet deployments of the feds in cardassian space. Cardassian ships are viewed as neutral now by feds and klings. A perfect trojan horse.
Teh founder accepts the military personnel. Besides, they have also brought with them 3 of Cardassia's top military scientists, with which the Dominion could research and improve upon the older cardassian galor and keldon designs.
With that motive only, the founder accepts their return. Once the war is over he will execute them all and complete the obliteration of Cardassia that should have been finished in the Dominion war.

And so the Dominion alliance sets to work. Splitting the fleet into 3 groups(avatars), the breen will head under thoth gor one front which will tackle the feds/klings entering from the breen kling/fed border. the second will be the cardassian trojan horses. Keldons and Galors enter cardassian space - when the time is right dominion cruisers and jemhadar ships can stream across to back them up. Ships manned by mostly jemhadar crews with a few of the deserting cardassians as support crew begin entering cardassian space through the use of sensor ghosts and typical strategies that were used to evade and dodge fed/kling/card govt sensor arrays (not all at once but gradually in a planned and organized manner).
Since the feds and klings were intent on showing goodwill to the cardassians they did not impose a complete sensor net on cardassian space. The net is along their borders with the cardassians, but left cardassian space integrity to be primarily maintained by Cardassia. With teh weak fledgling infrastructure ccardassians have very porous borders - entry from breen space easily slips past.
Once inside, the trojans wait for nightfall.
the 3rd - the pure dominion tech sits as defensders of the founder in breen space.

Romulan intelligence has already received word of unusual cardassian fleet movements around breen space. rumors of deserters also reach Romulus. Cardasian ships known to have survived the domwar, which were fighting alongside romulan warbirds, suddenly listed in cardassian govt records as "destroyed in combat" leaves Romulus to suspect some form of dissent in cardassian space.
Romulus arms and implements its Norexan-Scimitar Hybrid - the Tavara.

Feds and Klings have word in intelligence circles of something being amiss, but are unable to decide whether this is credible or merely rumour that typically abounds after wars - hitler cited in elvis' home?!

Call it serendipity, but the feds and klings are still forced into arming and action - the Borg have returned. Rebuilt after Janeway's chaos virus, the Borg view the federation's "future invention" as a certain threat. teh Alpha quadrant must be taken - a foothold must be established.
The collective sets up base in an area near the Briar patch, and attacks in key sectors of fed/kling space. Roms viewing the borg as a greater threat than the dominion, enter on the fed/kling alliance's side. Needing a foothold on the alpha quadrant, the borg enter cardassian space as well, veiwing it as the weakest sector of the alpha quadrant - only a few ships dispatched taking it will be easy. Once taken the sector will be a staging area for a second front against alpha quadrant powers. However, on entry the borg find that the dominion/breen/card front (having rebuilt to a certain extent)has itself sought to exploit the fed/kling preoccupation with the borg and has almost retaken cardassia prime. The borg get dragged into a second front with the dominion alliance.

how we move forward from here - well that's what we as players will be determining with each game
Besides the briar patch thing can even allow for the Son'a to become involved - rekindling old alliances that would have been dissolved after their "repentance" in Insurrection; as well as allow for the whole nebula topic that's been going around.

posted on January 7th, 2009, 6:21 pm

You are an ***********! You cant do that!  Who told you such stories? I gotta catch him! :fish:

hey his story sounds good. party pooper. 

posted on January 7th, 2009, 6:28 pm

Interesting, only a few problems. The remenants of the Dominion/Cardassian/Breen alliance would get slaughtered after the first attack on the Federation and her allies or the Borg would easily assimilate them.

[Anonymous]

posted on January 7th, 2009, 6:43 pm

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Interesting, only a few problems. The remenants of the Dominion/Cardassian/Breen alliance would get slaughtered after the first attack on the Federation and her allies or the Borg would easily assimilate them.

nah. they're rebuilding remember. after they rebuild they start. Besides, the slaughter part is what our gameplay and forum on game dynamics are for.

posted on January 7th, 2009, 7:07 pm

So your suggesting they could rebuild well enough to compete with the Federation, Klingons, Romulans, good Cardassians & Borg? Cardassian ships are the weakest of the main Alpha Quandrent races and the Dominion Bugship isn't very strong either. Who knows about the Breen, but the Borg would love a Breen ship.

[Anonymous]

posted on January 7th, 2009, 7:10 pm

Last edited by Anonymous on January 7th, 2009, 7:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

So your suggesting they could rebuild well enough to compete with the Federation, Klingons, Romulans, good Cardassians & Borg? Cardassian ships are the weakest of the main Alpha Quandrent races and the Dominion Bugship isn't very strong either. Who knows about the Breen, but the Borg would love a Breen ship.

I suggested that the Dominion would rebuild to compete with them, the cardassian ships would be support craft ans serve as initial trojan horses. the Dominion can certainly rebuild well enough to step up. but still do not take on the feds/roms/klings. they just start to take on the cardy govt that was rebuilding (u said it yourself, the pure tech Cardies are some of the weakest in the quadrant), and end up having to take on the dispatched borg fleet (a few ships only) - REFER ABOVE

I personally feel the dominion can handle it - even if isolated in the alpha quadrant.

Besides, the current FO 3 version already has doms with bug ships agains borg and feds and klings and roms.