Observers Flagship

posted on April 26th, 2010, 7:49 pm

I really think that observers should atleast be able to chat.(with everyone, the limited ability to chat only with all players would deter cheating because if you did, everyone would know )

I have observed games, and its fun, but it really sucks not being able to comment on battles and such.

Also, players might have the ability to kick the observer if he did cheat. Just as a precaution...

posted on April 26th, 2010, 8:02 pm

If it could be done that would be the way to go.

posted on April 26th, 2010, 8:56 pm

Well, the kicking part might be hard since its a feature thats not already in the game, but I'm almost certain that you could give them limited chat.  Infact, since you can't ally with anyone as a observer, then there would be no need for a limited chat because all the players would either be an enemy or ally.

posted on April 26th, 2010, 9:01 pm

i totally agree with this, chatting as observer would be good. as long as all messages went to all players.

maybe ally chat for observers could talk only to other observers. so observers could discuess the battle without the players hearing.

also how about if a player disconnects then an observer can take over their armada?

posted on April 26th, 2010, 11:12 pm

Your last idea is cool.  It could be added in the section where it asks eliminate or AI takeover.

the reason I don't like the first idea is because if there is only one observer, it doesn't fix the problem.  And, seriously, how often is there more than one observer?   Anyways, While observing, I would like to be able to input, comment, and maybe even chat with the players.  My problem is that I like to observe some of my mod testers play the mod and judge for myself how it is going, however, if an issue arizes, or the players can't understand a feature, I have no way of talking to them.

Anyway, its not an important issue, but It would definitely be a nice feature.

posted on April 27th, 2010, 12:00 am

I see games with multi observers all the time. I think all of these ideas should be used for a new topic; they're great! *cough* (looks to adm)

posted on April 27th, 2010, 12:29 am

(in my own defence I don't play online that often when it doesn't involve my mod )

posted on April 27th, 2010, 6:38 pm

the reason I don't like the first idea...

my first idea was me simply restating your idea to voice my support for it

as i understand your intention as thus: observers can chat, but when they send a message, all players can receive it. this stops observers helping particular players.

posted on April 27th, 2010, 8:54 pm

Exactly.  And as a precaution, if this is even possible, Players should have the ability to vote to kick an observer out of the game, in the event that he(I think its safe to assume it will be a he since there are little to no female players here) does cheat.

posted on April 27th, 2010, 9:06 pm

how could an observer cheat if the method i detailed in my post was suggested?

they could detail fleet movements, but all the players would hear and the player with the weakness would alter their plans. and of course nobody would ever play with the observer again.

posted on April 27th, 2010, 9:20 pm

my first idea was me simply restating your idea to voice my support for it

So Adm doesn't like his own idea. 

(in my own defence I don't play online that often when it doesn't involve my mod )

I was referring to who should write the topic because *cough* you were the one to think of all those great ideas and *cough* should be the one to post it. 

posted on April 27th, 2010, 9:30 pm

Ugh, well, let me explain...

When I said I didn't like his first Idea, I was refering to the underlined one in this quote.  It is his first idea

i totally agree with this, chatting as observer would be good. as long as all messages went to all players.

maybe ally chat for observers could talk only to other observers. so observers could discuess the battle without the players hearing.

also how about if a player disconnects then an observer can take over their armada?

This is clearly his First Idea.  The one which is not a re-statement of my idea.  However I did not quite realize he ment it to be another option for observers to only talk to observers.  I thought he meant that observers should only be able to chat with each other no matter what.  That is why I protested.


the part where I said

(in my own defence I don't play online that often when it doesn't involve my mod )

I was responding to this:

I see games with multi observers all the time.

The reason I haven't started a new thread...I'm just lazy.