Defiant and her fire rate

posted on May 25th, 2004, 8:33 pm

I only have one problem with this mod every mod has this problem really and it is with the Defiant Classes weapons they fire way to slow and have trouble hitting smaller ships, could you guys maybe make it fire alot faster and more so it would fire 3 times but only take 2s to fire again?

The other thing I think should be done is move it to be called in from the starbase the ship is a warship and there were not that many built, if you do this make it alot more powerful.

posted on May 25th, 2004, 9:49 pm

I think its powerful enough as it is, especially with that critical shot, but yeah you could make it fire faster, but then it should do less damade with 1 shot. What do you mean has trouble hitting smaller ships, I thought that weapon is 100% accurate, but even if its not in the show they miss alot of time as well. ^_^

[DOCa Cola]

posted on May 26th, 2004, 7:21 am

Last edited by DOCa Cola on May 26th, 2004, 7:23 am, edited 1 time in total.

Welcome to the forums corey!
yea, there was already a request for higher fire rate and we changed that for beta 3 (or should i say 3.0). of course we adapted balancing for this too.

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DOCa Cola

posted on May 26th, 2004, 8:57 am

Hi and welcome to the forums!

yep, the firerate of the defiant has been increased, in the exchange of damage. it has the same damage/s.
All Pulse Type weapons to hit their target with a 100% accuracy. Not only that, they deal more damage to small units then to large units. everyone who watched his Bird of Preys explode in front of a Defiant will know that

Optec

posted on May 26th, 2004, 11:33 am

i have a better idea, defiant has reactive armor(or something like that), so you could add this option, so when the defiant is uder attack, fist the sheilds fall, than the armor and finally the hull

posted on May 26th, 2004, 1:39 pm

I think it has ablativ armor, and that armor is already included in the hull, so you can see it has alot os hull points. But if you will make special armor for the defiant, you must make it for all the ships as well, especially the borg

posted on May 26th, 2004, 4:49 pm

I think it only came on the Defiant and Sovern, no other ships, so putting Ablative armor on other ships would be pretty uncanon...like a Negh'var with Quantum torpedos.

I wouldn't mind seeing Sovern and Defiant with Ablative armor seeing as how weak Feds are at the moment. I'm sure that will change for Beta 3

posted on May 26th, 2004, 7:45 pm

I wouldn't mind seeing Sovern and Defiant with Ablative armor seeing as how weak Feds are at the moment. I'm sure that will change for Beta 3

Just wait and see, it has changed much in beta 3, especially balancing

DOCa Cola

posted on May 26th, 2004, 9:46 pm

mmm burst Photons and Quantums, cant wait!

posted on May 26th, 2004, 9:48 pm

I think every ship has some kind of armor, not ablativ, but some other kind.

posted on May 26th, 2004, 10:48 pm

Well, for all you Defiant Fans for canon fans, just go to the Defiant Pulse Phaser file and change the firereate to like 1.8, 2.4, or something, Or is Fleet Ops odf much more different than A2 odfs?

posted on May 26th, 2004, 11:13 pm

Well i'm sure every ship has some sort of protective covering, not just something you might find on a present space ship but a shell capable of taking punishment from dangerous Nebulas, extreme heat and extreme cold, things like that.

I think Ablative armor is ment explicitly for combat situations.

[DOCa Cola]

posted on May 27th, 2004, 6:40 am

Last edited by DOCa Cola on May 27th, 2004, 6:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

Well, for all you Defiant Fans for canon fans, just go to the Defiant Pulse Phaser file and change the firereate to like 1.8, 2.4, or something, Or is Fleet Ops odf much more different than A2 odfs?

Of course not, but then you are unable to play fleetops online with others anymore

DOCa Cola

posted on June 7th, 2004, 2:06 am

It may not matter too much to others but the Defiant is NOT a battleship. It doesnt have the size, range, or sheer power of a real battleship like a Sovereign. It is actually a very well designed destroyer. But if it isnt worth changing then oh well.

posted on June 7th, 2004, 7:23 am

I've never really felt the defiant needed to be changed, as it stands at the moment it is a very punishing ship especially when grouped together or in a support role to a larger fleet (I especially find it useful against the Borg). But as you say it can't be beat when going up against smaller ships and for that purpose a faster fire rate will be very helpful.