Borg rebuilding from any other borg vessal

posted on August 5th, 2011, 12:00 pm

Ive had a thought that all borg will try to rebuild the collective if the base is destroyed. Now obviously they would only be able to build their primery construction centre not anything else. They would need the resources and it would take the ship a long time depending on the size of the crew. I.E. If the borg base gets entirely destroyed and big cube survives it could sacrifice using its weapons and crew to rebuild the main structure and build it relativly quickly, not as quick as an actual builder but much faster than if a detector tryed to rebuild one.

posted on August 5th, 2011, 11:13 pm

Interesting idea I could see the borg doing this. They might have something like this already in the works for the coming soon borg redo.

posted on August 5th, 2011, 11:22 pm

How would you limit it to rebuild? The Borg usually have several big ships out at a time and might end up with a Starbase wall instead.

posted on August 6th, 2011, 12:32 pm

Could be an interesting tactic, well for you not who's playing against you. But if the cube is completely vunrable while building I.e. weapons, special ablities didn't work. It will give others chance to find it and destroy it. Again the building time would scale to the size of the ship but even the largest vessels would still take maybe twice the time a normal borg builder would take.

posted on August 6th, 2011, 9:37 pm

I can't tell you how many times my Borg fleet is the only thing left and I wish that I could rebuild. I like this idea! 

posted on August 6th, 2011, 9:56 pm

this is interesting. borg builders are harder to kill, but you rarely have more than 1. if the enemy is coming to kill your base it can be hard to run away and hide the assembler. while for other races it tends to be easier to run away and hide a con for rebuilding. especially since other races usually have their 2 cons split up. 1 at main base 1 at an exp for example, so 1 con gets advance warning to run.

if a sphere or above could go hide somewhere and become inactive to make a starbase, it would be ok. as long as its not useful as a way of making a forward turret like a dode relay.

posted on August 8th, 2011, 5:50 am

It's interesting, but it seems like all it does is give the borg an unique advantage if they lose their base.

What if they simply made the borg constructor cooler?  Say maybe it can use transwarp with a range like the detector's for a cost of 30-some supply?  That would help the problem of it getting sniped but only if you were prepared.

And/Or you could do something like the constructor can TRANSFORM into a starbase for a price.  The process could take half the di, tri, and time costs of a normal starbase so that it's actually cheaper than building one normally, BUT it is incredibly weak while building like the dode relay.  It would be impossible to starbase rush an enemy's base without freezing your ship production hard.

This would allow the borg to expand their "borg territory" in whatever form that ends up being, but only after at least 15 minutes of the game have gone by at which point the opponent will be ready to react if you don't protect it.

posted on August 8th, 2011, 8:49 am

I think I know a way to make this work:
Any large cube can hit a button that disables all weapons but allows it to build collectors and contruction ships (perhaps at 66% speed, cost and armour - too expencive/innefficient to be worth while unless you were rebuilding from scratch.)You could then hit the button again the cube is destroyed but you get a sphere.
Savvy commanders could hit this buton twice (same hotkey) to launch a sphere just before a cube is destroyed a la first contact

posted on August 8th, 2011, 10:45 am

And/Or you could do something like the constructor can TRANSFORM into a starbase for a price.  The process could take half the di, tri, and time costs of a normal starbase so that it's actually cheaper than building one normally, BUT it is incredibly weak while building like the dode relay.  It would be impossible to starbase rush an enemy's base without freezing your ship production hard.

this idea on its own is basically the same as now, as the second its attacked it goes down.

the borg cant come back from having their base killed. as the assembler is usually at the base.

emergency transwarp is an interesting idea. would need longer range though, as if it only goes a screen or two away, the enemy can just put their ships on explore to find where it went. then chase it.

maybe if it had emergency transwarp for longer distances, but had to power up for 10 seconds before jumping. that way you only escape if you realise the enemy is coming. would probably be a better solution than having cubes build starbases.

posted on August 8th, 2011, 12:48 pm

My original thought was "what would the borg do?" Maybe transwarp but nobody has warp anymore let along transwarp. And speaking of 1st contact what happened when a single borg sphere that invaded earth in the past? The same as if it found any other aliens/technology assimilate and multiply. It rebuilt the borg collective with one sphere and the resources of the planet. "9 billion all borg"