Borg mixed-tech

posted on October 10th, 2009, 6:56 pm

just a little idea for Borg mixed-tech, because now it is pretty useless:

every faction has a system in which it is spezialized: the feds have superior shields, the klingons good weapon systems and so on.

so my idea: if you capture the enemy constructor, the mixed tech facility has now global research options like the upgrade facility if the other factions:

-fed-yard:shield research and advanced shield research for all ships (+5% and +8% or so)
-klingon:weapon research
-Rommies:sensor research(because of the romulan knoelegde of cloaking technology)
-Dom:engine research (because of breen engines)

the researches would take long, and cost much supplies and res, but no connections, so that the borg have something to spend their resources on^^

posted on October 10th, 2009, 7:39 pm

Interesting idea

posted on October 10th, 2009, 7:46 pm

Why can't the Borg themselves build mixed tech vessels. The shipyards just sit there, and don't do anything. They should be able to build cubes with fed shields or whatever.

posted on October 10th, 2009, 7:49 pm

i think this wouldnt be really borgy to use technology only on special ships,why only build a few cubes with fed shields,, when you could use them on all of your cubes?

posted on October 10th, 2009, 10:25 pm

It's not in the "spirit" of the Borg to use mixed Tech and make special ships out of it.

The suggested approach is quite interesting. I always thought that the crappy Adaptor modules were a bad idea. I built some adaptors just for fun, and I found that the added resistance it's really useless. But the concept of having shielding capacity for the borg is interesting. I'd also suggest to make it incompatible with regen modules, so you either have regen or shielding, but not both in the same ship. And similar incompatibilities with the other researches, like increased weapon damage (from, say, the Klingon) and  torpedo or beam modules.

Also, the MT shipyards of the borg are the only ones that allow repair. AND allow you to research the allied repair so your allies can use those shipyards for fixing their ships.

posted on October 10th, 2009, 11:04 pm

Borg shields have been shot down several times... it simply ain't happening.

One idea you could try is Mixed-Tech modules added to a ship allowing it to assimilate Special Weapons from the race in question; 1 modules allowing 1 weapon, 2 modules allowing two.

posted on October 10th, 2009, 11:41 pm

i didnt mean it to give the borg shields, i meant it as a global defensive upgrade, like the other actions have

posted on October 11th, 2009, 3:30 am

Could always do it like

'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Phasers'
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Pulse Phasers'
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Photon Torpedoes'
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Quantum Torpedoes'
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Quantum Pulse'
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Shield Penetration'
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Hulll Penetration'
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - System Isolation'  (which would be damaging their systems)
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Close Combat'  (Boarding strength)
'Upgrade - Federation Adaptation - Auxiliary Adaptation'  (extra resistance to their special weapons)

Do something like that for each race, with the adaptations granting a bonus of 20% or so (maybe more, as it requires mixed tech just to -start- on it) and in the end, the Borg are much more effective against their adaptation target, but at a cost.

posted on October 13th, 2009, 12:14 am

What do you mean "not in the spirit of the Borg"? I mean assimilation is adding stuff the collective, and if there was something pretty awesome the collective assimilated, why wouldn't they add the components to their newer vessels? 

posted on October 13th, 2009, 2:07 am

Hello, first post here, and I've been giving this question some thought.

The idea isn't that the borg would be against using assimilated technology from Alpha Quadrant races, but the issue that it is unlikley that Federation shields are the best the collective has encountered- just as Romulan cloaking devices may be second rate compared to others in the galaxy, and as Klingon weapons or Dominion engines may not be the best. Thus, the incarnation of the Borg Cube as we know it is probably using technology that far outclasses what is used by the Alpha quadrant powers. It wouldn't make sense to incorporate inferior, while unique, technology. This may have been the case early on in the collective's history, but it appears that each new race the collective discovers has little impact on the collective as a whole, thanks to the technology they had previously assimilated.

Adapting to specific enemy weapons (and adjusting the collective's weapons to maximum efficency) is something that would be cool to see, and would make sense.

posted on October 13th, 2009, 2:16 am

Logical idea 

posted on October 13th, 2009, 2:40 am

I agree, but I think that all borg ships should have the ablity to adapt not just one type of ship. I agree that the adaptor should be better at it. but, not nessesaraly the only one able to do it

posted on October 13th, 2009, 9:19 am

What do you mean "not in the spirit of the Borg"? I mean assimilation is adding stuff the collective, and if there was something pretty awesome the collective assimilated, why wouldn't they add the components to their newer vessels? 

I meant that the Borg are not prone to design new ships with captured tech. They don't mix their tech, they assimilate. So, if something is worthy to be added to their current designs, they'd devise a module for adding it to the ships.

Going with the Federation shields, IF (big if) they found StarFleet shielding was worthy of being included in their ships, the Borg/Fed mixed tech shipyard would provide a research for creating the shielding module. That means that no ship below Adaptor could incorporate shields AND that the other designs have to spend one slot if you want them to have shields. Just to avoid overpowering the Borg, make the shielding tech incompatible with the regen tech, so you have either shields or regeneration, but not both on the same ship.

So, no Borg Cone coming out of a Mixed Tech Shipyard. Pity.