Borg Again

posted on January 10th, 2004, 6:27 pm

ok i just played 2 test battles 1 as feds vs Ai Hard borg and 1 as Borg vs Ai hard feds

now i was shocked i slaughterd the Ai it wasnt a challenge yet when i played as borg i was overrun so i ask how is a borg player meant to win if the whole game is balanced against him i think the borg have to many weaknesses compared to the others and there vessels are too expensive in comparisson i love the borg but its ridiculous how u meant to win if u can build a decent fleet or 2 to defend u in time ?

posted on January 10th, 2004, 7:38 pm

ok i just played 2 test battles 1 as feds vs Ai Hard borg and 1 as Borg vs Ai hard feds

now i was shocked i slaughterd the Ai it wasnt a challenge yet when i played as borg i was overrun so i ask how is a borg player meant to win if the whole game is balanced against him i think the borg have to many weaknesses compared to the others and there vessels are too expensive in comparisson i love the borg but its ridiculous how u meant to win if u can build a decent fleet or 2 to defend u in time ?

Hmm next chance I get I'll recreate the scenario and report back - maybe some others should too.

posted on January 10th, 2004, 8:44 pm

yep, borg a hard to play, but i won many games against borg players. you should also play against humans ;-)
the game is not balanced against the borg, but you can't play borg as you would play with the federation. but i will check the technology tree again for you.

posted on January 10th, 2004, 8:59 pm

well now 3 times the Ai hard federation has beaten me as borg i played 4player map

Ai hard Klingon
Ai hard romulan
Ai hard Feds


i beat down the klingons first and damaged them with a handfull of cubes the scout fusion cube some adaptors and assimilators i was in the middle of a war with the romulans but was winning yet when the federation show up they have 3x many ships than anyone else and overrun my cube fleet scout fusion cube scout cubes assimilators spheres and adaptors they even smashed my Tc group easily its no fair they rushed me with something like 50ships

i had something like 2full fleets and half a 3rd and they rushed with soo many ships just millions of sovys Akiras intrepids and remoores i think what i have realised is that the game is balanced against borg and there is no explaining which can change my mind

posted on January 10th, 2004, 9:46 pm

mh, if you lost against 3 ais it's not unfair they won in beta3 you will perhaps be beaten by 1 insane ai
by the way don't forget most borg vessels are very powerful against large essels or stations cause of very impressive torpedos, but this get lost against medium or small vessels. you should try to compliment your fleet with interceptors or other vessels with beam damage cause the borg don't have pulse weapons (the command cube is an excellent asset for this and is a heavy armed, fast artillery vessel)

posted on January 11th, 2004, 12:41 am

i was not playing vs 3 AI it was a free for all thats why i am baffeled as to how the feds got soo many vessels

posted on January 11th, 2004, 7:09 am

Hmm, i think the AI tries to play the borg like the federation, Optec mby if you came up with a great borg strategy and made an ai script from it the AI might not play like its playing the feds.

posted on January 11th, 2004, 11:45 am

yep, that's true. the beta2 ai scripts for the borg are weak compared with the other ones. Lucky it seems i have to redo most of the borg tech tree so tehre will be a new adpated ai for beta3

posted on January 11th, 2004, 5:26 pm

Thanks for the info, sounds great.

posted on January 11th, 2004, 9:22 pm

YAY finally borg will be better remade IMProved i cant wait

posted on January 11th, 2004, 10:52 pm

LOL, four we all want that.

posted on January 12th, 2004, 1:27 am

"we will all become one with the borg"

a quote from locutus of borg Aka picard

posted on January 12th, 2004, 1:33 am

"We search out and identify potential dangers to the Federation...we deal with them...quietly."

a quote from Luther Sloan, Section 31

posted on January 12th, 2004, 2:35 pm

"Es soll Leute geben, die haben sich totgemischt!"

- Riker in "Cause and Effect"

(Unfortunately, I don't have it on DVD and can't find the English version. )

posted on January 12th, 2004, 9:11 pm

lol, well this isnt the quote forum so back to the topic, atleast they will be fixed in beta 3.