Balance Changes
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posted on October 1st, 2006, 7:22 pm
well yeah exactly cause right now a ******* scout takes 3 hits to die from an SB so imagine a ******* turret ?
posted on October 1st, 2006, 9:37 pm
well, i believe it has been stated on many occasions how horribly underpowered the starbase is.
posted on October 3rd, 2006, 12:31 am
I tried something at my friends house
3 sabres vs 6 dominion scouts.
The scouts won.
Not funny.
3 sabres vs 6 dominion scouts.
The scouts won.
Not funny.
posted on October 3rd, 2006, 1:03 am
well i think that wins the case for the sabres i was making
posted on October 3rd, 2006, 11:16 am
i think 5 scouts would win too.
posted on October 3rd, 2006, 9:26 pm
It would be darn close.
posted on October 4th, 2006, 7:12 am
I tried something at my friends house
3 sabres vs 6 dominion scouts.
The scouts won.
Not funny.
Dominion scout costs 3 supplies.
Not funny

Try it out with other scouts too and lets see the results
posted on October 4th, 2006, 7:14 am
that doesnt excuse anything Barron as we both know you have Supply cost for a reason
posted on October 4th, 2006, 9:18 am
indeed, you just can't compare dominion supply cost and the other races.
posted on October 5th, 2006, 6:44 pm
LoL Sabre costs 1 supply?
Look, Im not excusing anything, but it is a fact that 3 supplies is A LOT for a scout (3x as many as a Sabre
) so it cant just die right away as that would be FUBAR 
Leave it the way it is OR make it weaker AND lower its frickin cost.
Also do not forget that other scouts cost 0 supplies and roughly the same ammount of dil an tri, so why on earth should the dominion scout be suckier then?
I personally do not care if u make the scout cost 100 supplies and nerf it so its the worst. Its just I hate how 1 of you comes out with something like: "uuuu 6 x ships destroy 3 y ships and its stupid." And then all of you start talking about how stupid that is etc etc. Without actually thinking it over first. Tell me something, who in the right mind would go massing dominion scouts if they cost 3 god damn supplies?
BTW Bugs cost 6 supplies (4 in the next version) and IMO that is a MUCH better investment than the scout.
IMHO it is MUCH easier to mass other races scouts as u dont really need a hell of a lot to do it and it wont screw u up in later stages as with the dominion if you do that u're gonna be out of supplies and sooner or later out of scouts. Now is that really worth it?
Also I do know we cannot compare supply cost for Dom and other races, but remember. for 80(I think) supplies u need to spend 600 dil and 1800 tri. So that means for 1 supply u must pay: 7,5dil and 22,5tri
If you multiply that by 3 u get 22,5dil and 67,5tri
So if you add that to the A4 scout of 70+22,5 dil and 40+67.5 tri means it actually costs 92,5 dil and 107,5 tri and for a scout that most certainly IS NOT cheap.
U can argue that the dominion get a station that generates supplies. That might be true BUT it also blocks out a resource moon for you
Do not forget that tiny little detail 
OK Im babbling a bit now, its just I get annoyed by your selection of the dominion scout which actually is not cheap. And when I point that out, u2 want to slam me down
(bastards)
What Im trying to say is, try it out with other scouts too and see how that works out. I hope the Sabres loose
Look, Im not excusing anything, but it is a fact that 3 supplies is A LOT for a scout (3x as many as a Sabre


Leave it the way it is OR make it weaker AND lower its frickin cost.
Also do not forget that other scouts cost 0 supplies and roughly the same ammount of dil an tri, so why on earth should the dominion scout be suckier then?
I personally do not care if u make the scout cost 100 supplies and nerf it so its the worst. Its just I hate how 1 of you comes out with something like: "uuuu 6 x ships destroy 3 y ships and its stupid." And then all of you start talking about how stupid that is etc etc. Without actually thinking it over first. Tell me something, who in the right mind would go massing dominion scouts if they cost 3 god damn supplies?
BTW Bugs cost 6 supplies (4 in the next version) and IMO that is a MUCH better investment than the scout.
IMHO it is MUCH easier to mass other races scouts as u dont really need a hell of a lot to do it and it wont screw u up in later stages as with the dominion if you do that u're gonna be out of supplies and sooner or later out of scouts. Now is that really worth it?
Also I do know we cannot compare supply cost for Dom and other races, but remember. for 80(I think) supplies u need to spend 600 dil and 1800 tri. So that means for 1 supply u must pay: 7,5dil and 22,5tri
If you multiply that by 3 u get 22,5dil and 67,5tri
So if you add that to the A4 scout of 70+22,5 dil and 40+67.5 tri means it actually costs 92,5 dil and 107,5 tri and for a scout that most certainly IS NOT cheap.

U can argue that the dominion get a station that generates supplies. That might be true BUT it also blocks out a resource moon for you


OK Im babbling a bit now, its just I get annoyed by your selection of the dominion scout which actually is not cheap. And when I point that out, u2 want to slam me down

What Im trying to say is, try it out with other scouts too and see how that works out. I hope the Sabres loose

posted on October 5th, 2006, 8:52 pm
lol baron, you kinda lost me with the whole 7,5 dil part
. but i think i get the gist of it. IMO the dom scout should be slightly tougher than the others, in terms of hull ( & maybe shild) points.
Anyway try that test scout to scout, my money is on the dom scout losing against the others cos if im not mistaken all the other scouts use pulse weapons.


Anyway try that test scout to scout, my money is on the dom scout losing against the others cos if im not mistaken all the other scouts use pulse weapons.
posted on October 6th, 2006, 1:25 pm
lol baron, you kinda lost me with the whole 7,5 dil part![]()
. but i think i get the gist of it. IMO the dom scout should be slightly tougher than the others, in terms of hull ( & maybe shild) points.
Anyway try that test scout to scout, my money is on the dom scout losing against the others cos if im not mistaken all the other scouts use pulse weapons.
You're not.
Hmmmm I wonder if massed ventures can block a destroyer rush?
posted on October 7th, 2006, 2:06 am
probably not red shirt.
the dom scout is perfect as it is. if anybody wants to get statistical 16 ventures against 16 dominion scouts went into battle. i don't remember how many of the winning fleet survived but it was dominion
perfectably resonable for an expensive scout ship. if u were to send 3 sabres to fight 6 dom scout ships then u are being gay but u cud still destroy some, if not all
i could destroy your doms scouts with 3 sabres red shirt 
anyway don't fcuk with the dominion, they are great as they are, perhaps a couple of ships credit cost taken down by 1 or 2 OR an easy fix for the whole race the Founders found...lower the trit costs of the supply the station generates, but not too much. supply isn't really a problem with dominion anyway.
sabre and starbases need more weapon power!
the dom scout is perfect as it is. if anybody wants to get statistical 16 ventures against 16 dominion scouts went into battle. i don't remember how many of the winning fleet survived but it was dominion



anyway don't fcuk with the dominion, they are great as they are, perhaps a couple of ships credit cost taken down by 1 or 2 OR an easy fix for the whole race the Founders found...lower the trit costs of the supply the station generates, but not too much. supply isn't really a problem with dominion anyway.
sabre and starbases need more weapon power!
posted on October 7th, 2006, 3:46 pm
well, the dominion are great, but the supply cost should be looked into, couse when playing on 4 or 2 moon resources you'r really up poo creek without a paddle.
posted on October 9th, 2006, 5:42 pm
Just don't be Dominion on those maps, lol.
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