Rushing Borg

posted on December 18th, 2008, 11:38 am

Just played a game online after a few minutes Borg came with 3 Scout Cubes and an Assimilator. How are you supposed to counter this in very early game? They will laugh about 4 Shrikes lol.

I will do some more tests first though...

posted on December 18th, 2008, 11:40 am

It was me in the game, using the assimilate avatar, you can get an assimilator out after 3 scoutcubes, which will beat almost anything they have at that time.

posted on December 18th, 2008, 1:00 pm

just curious, do you guys use gamespy, or another gaming server to play? cant seem to find anyone ever on gamespy

posted on December 18th, 2008, 1:39 pm

Ye we played on GameSpy.

posted on December 18th, 2008, 1:44 pm

Just played a game online after a few minutes Borg came with 3 Scout Cubes and an Assimilator. How are you supposed to counter this in very early game? They will laugh about 4 Shrikes lol.

I will do some more tests first though...

Got to be honest mate you must not be very good, by the time he has 3 scout cubes and an assimilator i'll have a mini fleet of my own no matter what race i am kicking there arse...
You need to make sure you get your starting construction sorted right in the correct order it not really changed much since the FO PR days...
Refinery, Refinery, Shipyard, Renfinery, Refinery, Shipyard, Tech, Any other Refinery's if there are moons and so on...

It was me in the game, using the assimilate avatar, you can get an assimilator out after 3 scoutcubes, which will beat almost anything they have at that time.

it wouldnt beat almost anything i have...

posted on December 18th, 2008, 7:13 pm

You underestimate how fast a assimilate kitted assimilator will suck the crew off your ships, and, that that ship will then be assimilated to kill you.

The assimilators are also pretty strong, I would assume your starbase could probably manage the assault, just barely, but they have free reign to rape your miners if they dont try that.

posted on December 18th, 2008, 7:49 pm

not really, to keep the ship after assimilating it you need to beam people aboard and the beam does use a lot fo special energy...

you saw what i did to ur ships... by the time you had 6 assimilators (i was constantly watching your base) i already had 8 jam he da battle ships, a bunch of C-17 and B-5 as well as a rediculous amount of bugs... by the time you have assimilated two bugs one assimilator would eb blown up from concertrated fire on my part...

posted on December 18th, 2008, 8:01 pm

Tbh if one was to go straight to rush with the Borg it could be doable. But he'd have to skip everything all together, just build that matrix at the beginning and then 3 scout cubes and an assimilator. Dont know how the resources would hold but it one were to do that it would be pretty damn hard to counter. Especially since now ships seem to have much longer build time and in fact Borg ships can be build much much faster.
The only prob I see with the strat is maybe u'd run out of resources if that rush fails.

not really, to keep the ship after assimilating it you need to beam people aboard and the beam does use a lot fo special energy...

If u use the Assimilation directive u can transport 200 people directly from your starbase to any ship you or your ally owns. Plus I dont think transporting people should be much of a prob when the typical destroyer has about 40 crew per ship and those crew disappear QUICKLY if he has maxed out assimilator beam modules.

posted on December 18th, 2008, 8:30 pm

not really, to keep the ship after assimilating it you need to beam people aboard and the beam does use a lot fo special energy...

you saw what i did to ur ships... by the time you had 6 assimilators (i was constantly watching your base) i already had 8 jam he da battle ships, a bunch of C-17 and B-5 as well as a rediculous amount of bugs... by the time you have assimilated two bugs one assimilator would eb blown up from concertrated fire on my part...

Yeah, what did they do to your HSA and the ships they encountered on the way?

The special energy on assimilators is in the HUEG region, and regenerates fast as well - not to mention assimilators have 15k crew? and can RECREW once out of combat.

And I reitirate: no, i didnt see what you did to me because I was lagging, remember? . You shouldnt forget that "by the time you had.." is all relative, in that borg costs tend to be more expensive, rely on priority, affording to put all the modules on said ship, aswell as building the construction nodes, etc etc.

Im not an aggressive or good player either, so it doesnt really matter in the end.

posted on December 28th, 2008, 11:16 pm

One borg assimilator can take out even the stronger later-game ships. A fully kitted assim beam will suck the crew out of a small ship in around oh... 4 seconds, then beaming crew on board that ship is now borg, and against you.

posted on December 29th, 2008, 1:32 am

I have noticed that no matter what my opponent does, if I am borg and go for the Assimilation avatar NOONE can stop me.  I get three scout cubes and if I can get two of each moon within a few minutes I have three of four Assimiltors and nothing nor noone can stop those.  I just camp out till I get a few Spheres and take out everything else.

posted on December 29th, 2008, 7:20 am

I have noticed that no matter what my opponent does, if I am borg and go for the Assimilation avatar NOONE can stop me.  I get three scout cubes and if I can get two of each moon within a few minutes I have three of four Assimiltors and nothing nor noone can stop those.  I just camp out till I get a few Spheres and take out everything else.

The assimilator can also attack two ships, it drains one of crew and fires graviton topredos at the other.

however once the AI or player can start spamming Intrepid class vessels, there cheap but stronger than the Vor'cha, and they have tricobalt torpedos. By this time 5-7 can deal with an assimilator.