Balancing Nebulae for Borg

[Dominus_Noctis]

posted on February 12th, 2010, 10:57 pm

Last edited by Dominus_Noctis on March 24th, 2010, 12:42 am, edited 1 time in total.

Hard indeed.  I wonder if Optec could change the Nebula values for Mutara's to increase sensor range a little bit.  Sometimes I feel as though it's impossible even to SEE an enemy in the Mutara.

Dom Edit: just thought that this was getting gradually more and more off topic, so it should be split and moved to a relevant board

posted on February 12th, 2010, 10:59 pm

Well, that's what makes it fun when you have two non-Borg  . I just think Borg need some detrimental effects as well in those nebulae to compensate

posted on February 12th, 2010, 11:00 pm

Well, that's what makes it fun when you have two non-Borg  . I just think Borg need some detrimental effects as well in those nebulae to compensate

  Couldn't agree more .  Don't really know what that would be though .  I kind of thought about having crew loss or damage for Borg vessels to negate regeneration.  Dunno really how practical that would be.

  I'm sure there is some creativity out there to be had, because for sure a map like this will have a little trouble handling Borg.

posted on February 14th, 2010, 9:24 am

Coincidentally, Beta Aquilae is updated slightly now, along with a number of other maps.

posted on March 24th, 2010, 12:07 am

If a nebula had an energy drain effect, that would hamper borg.

Also, if shields didn't suddenly go away 100%, but drianed gradually over a period of 5-10s, that would take the bite off of borg running to a nebula. (it would then take 5-10 sec to regain once shielded ships left the nebula)

posted on March 25th, 2010, 7:15 pm

Well the mutara nebula should disable shields and sensors instantly, as it s in the movie. Energy drain for Borg should be fine. In case of the fluid nebula i'm not aware of any canon sources, so perhaps a progressive shield loss is a nice solution.

posted on March 25th, 2010, 7:31 pm

To be fair, when moving ships, the computer actually tries to path around nebulae.  Its pretty hard to use nebulae effectively, imo.  Everytime I try to path a ship into one it requires my complete attention.

posted on March 25th, 2010, 7:33 pm

Well it needs your comlete attention, but take a look at some of the "awesome youtube replays" by yandoman. There you can see that tactic used to great extend and success.

posted on March 26th, 2010, 3:26 pm

To be fair, when moving ships, the computer actually tries to path around nebulae.  Its pretty hard to use nebulae effectively, imo.  Everytime I try to path a ship into one it requires my complete attention.

It only paths around if you don't click in the nebuala. If you tell a ship to go in from anywhere on the map, it'll go in without a care even if it's a Metreon or Tetryon nebula 

posted on March 27th, 2010, 2:26 pm

true, but if you click on the distant side of a nebula, it will go around instead of just going strait through. can be a real pain sometimes. Thank god for manual pathing

posted on May 9th, 2010, 2:50 pm

I remember TNG:Best of Both Worlds had a Borg Cube firing into a nebula to get the Enterprise out, maybe if you could tell your ships fire into the general area you think a ship is in in the nebula by giving them a special attack order. Also would be useful for outside nebulae by firing where you think a cloaked ship (or Romulan Station) is.

posted on May 9th, 2010, 2:53 pm

The charges that Cube fired seem similar to the Serkas' Quadcobalts, which seem to be a Romulan-specific type of artillery.

posted on May 9th, 2010, 2:57 pm

Yeah, the Cube used something called "Gravimetric Charges" which were probably some sort of homing concussive torpedo - seems fairly similar to the Romulan artillery indeed

It only paths around if you don't click in the nebuala. If you tell a ship to go in from anywhere on the map, it'll go in without a care even if it's a Metreon or Tetryon nebula 

You can always use waypoints