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« on: September 05, 2009, 11:22:27 AM »

The next patch will probably be the largest patch we made since the release of version 3. It will feature a lot of new content - like the previously announced ingame interface redo - a ton of balancing improvements and many new features, with some not even yet revealed!

One of those new gameplay features is to be presented today: The new cloaking and cloak detection. Cloaking plays in important role in Star Trek. It is a core feature for both the Romulans and the Klingons, and finding a cloaked vessel often was the key element of an episode. Sadly, due to limitations of the Armada 2 engine also in Fleet Operations, detection was rather simple - a sensor station detects all cloaked vessels in their radius - a system that made cloaking mostly useless.
But that has changed! New cloak detectors will work similar to what you have seen in the shows. They will emit a Tachyon Ping in a given interval, which might detect cloaked vessels nearby - however there is a chance of failure. Those pings - while physically invisible - are displayed with a small "sonar-like" graphic animation, which allows a player to check his detection net with ease, in order to identify holes or weak spots.


An early Federation based protected from simple cloaking

Life would be so easy, if there weren’t those nasty Romulans. Yea, I’m sure you already guessed it. They advanced their cloaking in the past decades quite a bit! Some particular Romulan vessels have been spotted, that utilize a special, top secret cloak.. which is undetectable by normal Tachyon pings! Those vessels may slip through your whole cloaking net! As if that wasn't enough of the nasty tricks, there are also some new or modified special weapons that interact with cloak detection, like the new Stealth Field, which will disable Cloak Detection in a certain radius.
But no need to panic! There also is a way to detect the undetectable. Namely: Graviton-Tachyon pings. And that’s something no cloaked vessel can avoid.. well unless using some kind of phase cloaking, but that’s another story. Sadly detectors which are capable of emitting those 'super pings' are quite expensive and usually found late in an empires technology tree.


The only Klingon vessel that has an advanced cloak: The BortaS

As you see, we took a lot of time to underline cloaking and make it more fun and usable - and more important for our two 'cloaking empires'. Gameplay wise this two-stage cloaking and cloak detection allows cloak to be used effectively even in late games and gives cloak detectors a major role. On the other hand, it has to be balanced in, of course. You will see a lot of changes for both the Romulans and the Klingons. While the Klingons got more offensive oriented and don't feature much advanced cloaking, the Romulans got focused on nasty traps and cloaking combat, with quite a few vessels that will make your foe want to deploy graviton-tachyon-pings.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2009, 11:41:03 AM »

Wow, amazing stuff! 
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 11:56:29 AM »

Eventhough I will probably regret saying this later in MP matches, this is a great new feature! Smiley And its a lot more realistic this way Smiley

Though a couple of questions come to mind, what will happen to the talon refit, Dominion sensor station and Dominion perimeter station?
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 12:05:26 PM »

  Was about time for some changes in this respect. Great job.  Can't wait for the new patch.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 01:02:23 PM »

That rocks. Really. Hopefully we will be able to play 3.08 soon. Very soon. Any news on WHEN?
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 01:35:15 PM »

Very nice...
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 02:26:40 PM »

That rocks. Really. Hopefully we will be able to play 3.08 soon. Very soon. Any news on WHEN?
Hmm...

From the way the new patch is presented, version number may be 3.1.0.

There is a lot of content changes, but not enought to warrant a 4.0 jump.

Anyways, it seems finally playing Romulans and Klingons will be interesting.

Oh, by the way, will Cardassians ( when/if added ) use cloaking like in STA2?
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2009, 02:29:14 PM »

Oh, by the way, will Cardassians ( when/if added ) use cloaking like in STA2?
Unlikely, they are not a Cloak-capable race. The only ones who used Cloak is the Tal Shiar/Obsidion Order fleet.
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2009, 02:41:28 PM »

Unlikely, they are not a Cloak-capable race. The only ones who used Cloak is the Tal Shiar/Obsidion Order fleet.

Uhhh...

Not to sound rude, but the Tal Shiar is the ROMULAN Intelligence Service. The Obsidian Order are the Cardassian Intelligence Service.

And if the Obsidian Order has cloaks, then the Cardassians are cloak capable, even if they limit it to the Intelligence Service.

Still, I agree that STA2 "abused" the cloaking capacity of Cardassians, granting it to almost all of their military units. AFAIK, most of cardassian units, and most notably the big guns, were NOT equipped with cloaking devices.

But FO is not DS9, and it doesn't need to follow STA2 philosophy regarding Cardassians and cloaking. So, it makes sense to ask.
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2009, 02:44:49 PM »

Uhhh...

Not to sound rude, but the Tal Shiar is the ROMULAN Intelligence Service. The Obsidian Order are the Cardassian Intelligence Service.

And if the Obsidian Order has cloaks, then the Cardassians are cloak capable, even if they limit it to the Intelligence Service.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2009, 03:05:38 PM »

the fleet which he meant was the one that got erased by a dominion ambush at the fake homeworld of the founders
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2009, 03:53:57 PM »

Very cool!  But I have a few questions. How long does it take to scan. Is it passive or manual. And of course, what happens to thet Talon Refit?
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2009, 04:05:04 PM »

vessels that had Tachyon detection have been converted into tachyon pings in most cases, like the Talon for example. the range varies from unit to unit.

Pings are emitted automatically every 10 seconds, unless modified by special abilities
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2009, 04:17:18 PM »

  10 seconds... hmm, I hope is long enough. Is the ping forcing ships to decloak just like active scan does now ?
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2009, 04:48:05 PM »

This is awesome. Really cool stuff, guys 
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