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« Reply #120 on: December 06, 2009, 10:23:31 PM » |
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Actually, I'd dare go one level up and say that as stated in Optec's first post, the graphical animation of the ping is itself invisible. I think the only thing you will see as the player who built the sensor stations is the maximum range of the ping.
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« Reply #121 on: December 06, 2009, 10:57:34 PM » |
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I thought we had this conversation before Dominus, and Optec was a bit cryptic in his answer? In fact, he said this: the animation is displayed every 10 second, so its the actual ping, yep  |
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« Reply #122 on: December 06, 2009, 10:59:55 PM » |
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Yeah we did: I'm waiting on an answer from the man himself at the moment I'm afraid  |
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« Reply #123 on: December 06, 2009, 11:01:02 PM » |
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My post was just edited  |
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« Reply #124 on: December 06, 2009, 11:03:08 PM » |
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Well then, I guess that should clarify the contradiction in the first post  |
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« Reply #125 on: December 07, 2009, 12:08:14 AM » |
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Pings are visible for everybody thats intended. it eases detection of anti-cloak networks and allows a defending player to check its detection net anytime |
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« Reply #126 on: December 07, 2009, 12:23:32 AM » |
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Oh... well! I'm sorry Lycaon.  The way things read on the first page led me to strongly believe what I did. That means that your concern is very valid, and no, you won't be able to hide your sensor stations, because people will see the pings. And you can wait for the ping and then cross through with a fast enough ship, in theory. ...err Optec, that gives me a lot of questions now, but they can wait until the patch. It'll be easier to see it firsthand and give feedback then, rather than guessing now. |
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« Reply #127 on: December 07, 2009, 02:39:38 AM » |
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This will make cloaked talon refits useless, I guess.
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« Reply #128 on: December 07, 2009, 01:46:12 PM » |
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beside the small fact thats its one of the very few mobile tachyon pings? |
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« Reply #129 on: December 07, 2009, 02:43:02 PM » |
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Don't mention it Mal. That could happen to anyone.  To add to Ruanek's remark: sure, a Talon is a mobile tachyon ping, but what if it is cloaked... Scenario: Finally my huge fleet is done, now to go hunt helpless mining stations. Thats weird, why is there a tachyon ping coming from the middle of nowhere and following my fleet? Ah, of course, a cloaked Talon!!! (activates tachyon scan and Talon is destroyed in a brilliant explosion) (Scenario end) I think Ruanek point is that anything that has a tachyon ping and a cloaking device (Talon Refit, Spy Satellites (sometimes)) could be found via the ping even if the vessel (or station) is cloaked, or has that already been taken into account? |
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« Reply #130 on: December 07, 2009, 03:14:22 PM » |
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yep the ping is still visible even if the caster is cloaked. you can decide if you want to have a mobile tachyon ping (upgraded talon) or a cloaked scout (normal talon). that way both versions are relevant for gameplay
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« Reply #131 on: December 07, 2009, 03:43:46 PM » |
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Okay, that makes sense, I have to admit |
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« Reply #132 on: December 07, 2009, 06:50:26 PM » |
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Okay, that makes sense, I have to admit Indeed, not to mention that to stop this scout you have to bring your own mobile (or stationary) anti-cloak unit. I like that non-refitted units will be useful as well in games against cloaking factions. Makes choices much less apparent. |
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« Reply #133 on: December 07, 2009, 07:36:44 PM » |
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yep the ping is still visible even if the caster is cloaked. you can decide if you want to have a mobile tachyon ping (upgraded talon) or a cloaked scout (normal talon). that way both versions are relevant for gameplay
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