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« Reply #150 on: August 17, 2008, 12:19:32 AM » |
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Well it has not happened be for their are factors that have not bean play be for. History would not be fare masher of whats happening now. Although history can give us egesampules of possible outcomes to watch out for.
If we look at what happened when guns where legal in DC we has seen record crime rates.
We have so many weapons out their now outside army come to locale gun shops to buy weapons that are some time even stronger then what the US army uses. seen on a documentary witch covered about how the Serbian ware was armed.
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« Reply #151 on: August 17, 2008, 11:21:54 PM » |
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If history is not much more then a footnote to you in most situations when you weigh political and moral decisions, then no wonder we're having this discussion. Do keep in mind DC had a record crime rate AFTER guns were banned. It's illegal to have any firearm more powerful than a .50 caliber in most states, and the US army uses significantly more powerful weaponry than that. But yes I've been to a few gun shops, that's where I picked up all my arms  |
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« Reply #152 on: August 18, 2008, 12:14:37 AM » |
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Its not a foot note its a possible out come to look out for. - I don't use morality I am disgusted by what it can tern disagreements in to.
Wile guns where being taken off the streets.
"I think I am going to go dear hunting darling will lunch the ICBMs.
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« Reply #153 on: August 18, 2008, 01:30:34 AM » |
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Yes you told us, that in spite of how the mind works, you can somehow completely disregard your feelings and emotions and make decisions based solely on the facts. Which is why you find people being allowed to have guns is wrong.
But they were still illegal lol.
I don't go hunting period, I'm all about target shooting and self defense.
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« Reply #154 on: August 18, 2008, 04:26:30 AM » |
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Yes I can there is no need for guns. after reviewing all the fact over and over agin looking at new and old looking at the much debated ishow its comes out cleanly we dont need guns they just cosse needless silvan deaths.
why because people have bean tricked in to thinking having guns has to do with safety happiness sivales rights and more BS.
You just like like having the power to take life....
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« Reply #155 on: August 18, 2008, 06:34:27 AM » |
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If you actually reviewed anything, you'd have seen that overall crime diminishes when possible perpetrators realize that a greater majority of the population is armed. I mean that's if you look at it from an actual non-moral standpoint. Civilian deaths are irrelevant from a non moral standpoint anyway. As long as not too many civilians die then it doesn't matter, Right?
So you'd be willing to potentially do away with a constitutional amendment, a defensive tool, and the hundred million, give or take, firearms in the country, for what, us all switching to knives for self defense?
We all have the power to take a life, the real question is do we have the power to take a life if we want to, or if we have to.
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« Reply #156 on: August 18, 2008, 12:32:20 PM » |
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So if I don't see it your way I have not bean looking hard enough?  ..... Thats not what I see what I look at history books. Your coaching me on a non-morale stand point? It takes allot of work to reach the the ability of a non-morale stand point you just leaned of it... I would in a hart beat. Yep only knives. Pore NRA fat cats how will they pay for there weeks new cars pore guys..  We never have to its all ways chose a extremely rare chose in the contacts I think your thinking of. |
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« Reply #157 on: August 18, 2008, 02:58:53 PM » |
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You personally will never see things my way, because you've been indoctrinated to believe pretty much the opposite on a lot of what I say. We've given reasonable testimony across the board on this issue, and you still cling to, without any real evidence, on siding that firearms are wrong, and getting rid of them like Britain did and only having knives is by far preferable.
I honestly don't agree with you, especially on this subject. Guns themselves are not wrong, at all, it's what man chooses to do with them that has the possibility to be wrong.
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« Reply #158 on: August 18, 2008, 09:30:10 PM » |
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Or I could look at it you have all ways said things I don't agree with why is that. Bother are silly statements.
No you don't understand where I am coming from What I stand for its a world that works for every one guns are counter to this. It has nothing to do with right or wrong.
Guns themselves are not wrong. Agreed. What people use them for is counter to what I stand for.
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« Reply #159 on: August 18, 2008, 10:53:37 PM » |
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I guess it is silly to bring evidence around to back up statements. But then again this has nothing to do with facts, this has to do you with personally believing firearms are morally wrong. Your argument is even based on anything BUT a moral argument, no wonder this has been going on and on. Do you have anything else but firearms are a scourge on humanity?
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« Reply #160 on: August 18, 2008, 11:39:15 PM » |
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?what? ring evidence around to back up statements I am confused what evidence? facts dont egesest it some thing for you if a fact or the truth its just your believe about the truth of fact not relay a fact or truth.
I dont believe in morality........... os of core I don't.
Yes globule worming, Morality, Truth/Fact, War, companies abuses, inequality, Hate, Families that dont work, and much more...
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« Reply #161 on: August 19, 2008, 12:36:02 AM » |
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You lost me, try breaking sentences down.
And I didn't mean another subject, I mean do you have any other argument.
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« Reply #162 on: August 19, 2008, 12:54:22 AM » |
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Not augments points, And I what I have posted has yet to be shown that its not the case. I mean what I have posted seems to work logically and there is agreement for it and evidence. The counter points seem to be on shift grown or don't have any baring at all.
The resign The UK has so many problems is because of many factors Extremists, and the demographics are changing there and the demographics that are coming in have also of competing ways of thinking. No to mention the tensions between the former IRA people and the government.
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« Reply #164 on: August 19, 2008, 02:42:44 AM » |
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The IRA is not the bigest problome its the changing demographics from a very liberal style of government to a conservative one Secular o Muslim many of of the Muslims are discriminated agitated to breeding crime. Many of the Muslims younger people are angry and have lots of time plus little role-modals other then the madras and mosques witch add big time to instability.
Guns don't save live they don't drive ether. Guns are a tool of death by killing you don't save a life you take one.
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