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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2008, 01:22:02 PM »
isn't a warbird like twice the size of a galaxy class? and the sucker cloaks too. all things considered the federation would be in a bit of trouble if war did breakout with the romulans. IMHO.
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2008, 03:22:18 PM »
But the federation has like 3x more ships.
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2008, 03:44:18 PM »
The federation would probably win a war with the Romulans in the end, but the victory would be very costly and scarcely worth it. Although, I'd bet that the Klingons would not need much persuading to shoot some Romulan ships so that would alter the balance of power somewhat.

I think the Romulans know that their economy can't match the Federation - they don't have enough member worlds. Therefore, they purposely build their ships for deterrent effect, which is why Picard loses some more hair every time a Romulan ship decloaks.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2008, 09:13:44 AM »
i didn't say the feds wouldn't win, as laz said it would be very costly. is a victory still a victory if losses are prohibitively massive?
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2008, 10:02:47 AM »
Quote from: Casper on March 29, 2008, 01:22:02 PM
isn't a warbird like twice the size of a galaxy class? and the sucker cloaks too. all things considered the federation would be in a bit of trouble if war did breakout with the romulans. IMHO.

aren't the warbird and galaxy evenly matched in TNG ?

that would make the Sovereign the fly swatter
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2008, 02:00:32 PM »
I was of the impression that the warbird is more powerful than a galaxy class, but I could be wrong, not sure what the canon description is.

I agree Casper, a victory can be so costly as to be a defeat - it's called a Pyrhic victory, from king Pyrrhus of Epirus (not to be confused with Cyrus the Virus) who suffered a huge "victory" against the Romans in 280 BC. He's reported to have said that "another such victory against the Romans and we will be ruined".

This can be a massive deterrent effect; some people speculate that China is trying to build up its military strength so that a war with the US over Taiwan would hardly be worth it. True, america would win the war, but would they take heavy losses for one little island? Me thinks not, but then again I could be wrong.
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2008, 02:11:56 AM »
China seriously needs to leave Tibet.  If they don't, I'd contemplate going to Tibet to help organize a resistance! (experience isn't a requirement, right? LOL)

In TNG the Romulan warbird was usually considered to be on equal terms with the galaxy class (if one was speculated as superior over the other, it would have been the warbird), so it probably would be a "Pyrhic victory" as the survivor would be barely hanging on.

The end of Nemesis did leave Romulan/Federation cooperation as hopeful, but all the back story I know of indicates relationships falling apart.

Oh, and in terms of underhandedness, I think Section 31 would have something up their sleeve.
     
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2008, 02:43:44 PM »
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