Hi,

thx alot for everything you have done so far.

At the same time think about evolving the vista patch into a balancing patch. The Armada 2 experience needs to be refreshed, so the interest for the game comes back.

I played thousands of online matches, created over 70 maps and hosted once a ladder for Armada 2 and am leader of a clan that was once heavily into armada 2.

If you do an Armada 2 balancing patch I will promote it, by linking it and posting about it in our forums over there.
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Here are my suggestions:

Armada Patch 2.0

Goals:

- Avoiding frustration for newcomers, because they cannot longer build crap ships
- Bringing ships alive that were never used before online by good players
- Balancing out the races, by helping some races to easier fight back early rushes
- Making the game more interesting for veterans, because they can try out never used before tactics
- Enabling range attacks like in Armada 1
- Making the game easier to learn, but harder to master
- Balanced races will raise the acceptance for newcomers to chose their races

Global changes for all Races:
- Scout vision range increased by 50 %
- Bomber attack range increased by 50 %

Romulan changes:
- Shrikes crew cost reduced to 40 crew
- Draconis firepower increased by 10 %

Cardassia Changes:
- Sartans build time decreased by 10 %

Borg Changes:
- Sphere crew cost reduced by 50 %

Klingon Changes:
- Suq Jagh general building cost reduced by 20 %

Species Changes:
- Fregates firepower increased by 20 %

Federation:
- Sabre build time decreased by 10 %
- Akira metal cost decreased by 50 %
- Intrepid firepower increased by 20 %

If its a mod people wouldnt play it, if its the patch, there is a chance some people would use it.

If you take Warcraft 3, they will do a balancing patch (1.22) 6 years after the release.

the patch project is about adding extra features to armada 2 for modders and gamers a like, BUT without breaking compatiability with non patch project armada's.

so what this basically means nearly all your ideas just can't be made in the patch project....

infact readign through it your whole entire is a mod and not a patch at all, your not fixing issues but change a lot at odf level though most are easily achiveable ot be hoenst mate for anyone to do... you could do it yourself if you download WestWorlds Big Book of Modding...

" Balancing out the races, by helping some races to easier fight back early rushes"

doing that alone would take so much time from the fleetops team they might as well stop their own mod and just do yours and don't even start me on the rest of your ideas which are brief as hell and very unhelpful....

"- Avoiding frustration for newcomers, because they cannot longer build crap ships
- Bringing ships alive that were never used before online by good players
- Making the game easier to learn, but harder to masters
- Making the game more interesting for veterans, because they can try out never used before tactics"

what ships are those?what ships aren't used? Who said its easy to learn, who said it is hard to master or not? What tactics are these that need to be invented, how would you impliment them? its lld own to opinion...

im sorry for the rant but i'd much rather the devs just carried on with fleetops and didnt evne bother with the patch project at the moment...

P.S. Welcome to the forum by the way and that isnt meant to be an attack on you because new ideas are always welcome but just an expression of my opinion.

second red man's core statement:: this is about Flops not vanilla A2; vanilla A2 is like C&C spam tanks and be done for it;

I think there are a bazillion mods out there dabbling with A2 vanilla balance; When V3 final is out and everyone had a game or 2 we can start thinking about balancing issues in v3;

Until then, have a pan galactic gargle blaster!

Agree with above... See you at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe
-Slartibartfast, out 

Trip... I have the ultimate solution! Your ideas sound like you want to play Fleet Ops! Here comes the solution: Download FO 3.0 PR then see what potential is in there and then wait a short time until the final release of Fleet Operations which will contain everything you ever imagined of a very good Star Trek RTS.
I promise you, playing FO 3.0 online will be more like just a fresh update of an Armada 2 experience. It' will feel like a new game.

or wate a not so short time