So they make you spend more money then you need to just to play the bloody thing...... theirs only one thing more scary than bush and thats Microsoft with lots of money. Well maby not thare is nothing as scary as bush but microcrap gets 2ed prise!

Vista back word compatibly removed making 90% of computer owners buy hole new computers to just upgrade o and soft ware adding to the landfills that help with global worming.

They riped of mac like theirs no tomorrow which is not wrong but very unethical the way they did it.

They do back dore meading with the goverment to chages laws.

There a mibber of the Talaliban was invited to a Microsoft exclusives members only parry I saw the pitchers of it.

they are a monopoly that is protected by law under doable jeapordy law.

They lie to their consumers by doing the least potable in development to sell their product at the consumers expense.

I don't see why they don't wont to release the win64API/win32api unless they are scared of competition.

If they would do a bitt more fixing thare holes they would not have to make the world spend so much on tech support.

Yup, I got that Bob!

...but back to the other topic... what company hasn't done any of those things. Mac certaintly isn't innovative, nor novel (I mention it because you seem to be rather fond of their products). They use tons of nasty chemicals in their products (as recently surfaced about the iphone), and they are also a monopoly of sorts (have you not seen speakers exclusively for i products... but not made by mac n' toss?)

Again, mac also lies to consumers: i.e. ridiculous prices for mp3 players, phones, computers. Mac products are generally not compatible with other companies soft/hard ware (until very recently).

You literally could make the same argument for really any major company... but I grow tired and want to sleep 
-dom (g'night)

Dude, all comps are pc's: pc= personal computer!
...but anywho, since when as novelity been a factor of user base. If this was so, then you just proved yourself wrong! This is the way your argument reads right now: Mac is novel, therefore there user base is expanding. This is countered by the fact that every other computer in the world is not a mac (a majority, you will agree) which thus means the other computer companies must be more novel! Do you see?

I disagree with your greenest on earth argument. They use lead. They use arsenic. They used unnecessary chemicals in the Iphone that no other company used (and was recently released in a news report if you had been paying attention, no offense meant). All cells do use "bad chemicals", but some worse than others, and the Iphone would be one that uses much worse chemicals. I do not believe that Apple is very ethical, as it is a company. The profit margin matters more than anything else, and that is why their products are assembled in other 3rd world countries at a huge profit, and why their products are grossly overpriced compared to their use.

With the speakers, my point is that these companies made deals with Apple to manufacture products that exclusively cater to the ipod, and do NOT accept any other products (they won't work with sansa, dell dj, zune... the list goes on). This is a form of monopolization, albeit more subtly.

So here (I give you that they do have their problems (Ipod to PC) but they to much more to keep those to a minim as posabule they aren't a huge company like microcrap.) you are saying that the reason Apple is good is because they are small, and the reason Microsoft is bad is because they are big? If this is the case, and Apple indeed surpasses Microsoft... then wouldn't the reverse occur? I also notice you haven't said anything about any other company... say Acer, Asus, HP... all the other competitors which are almost as big as Microsoft, or bigger.

... but no need to get mad at me for this, I just find it difficult to make such generalizations (although I do occasionally). I should in fact say that Mac is innovative at times and novel as well, but so are all the other companies too.
-dom out!

But I mac would be perfectly  happy to let PC run their apps but PC has more to loss. Pluse if it only gos one way that would not be fare it would give a advantage to the compaction. If it ran both ways it would be even and it would come down to the qulaty of the OS rung the  apps not vis-versa.

Most of your point where not a few in resent poster were tho. (Basted on semantics PC means mac and IMB compads or meads just IBMs compads.)

As for bob - Apple - Get a Mac - Watch The TV Ads

I just heard that Microsoft ass just got kicked in the EU They have bean labeled a monopliy So that mean many things INCLUDING shearing  their technology with rivals Ya Mac.

My pont was lost under that devertion "semantics" I was stateing that mac cars about the interment. Mac is a compny I trust yes they have had bumps such as Ipod parts being made in swet shot as soon as it was pointed out mac took responsibility and fix the problem.
I am worried about the the cerint problem this echo sisativaty ut they have promested to fix it with the next gen of tech and I have no reson to thing they are not telling the truth.

They have and if their is a problem mac tech support is grate not one complent about them.

One fetcher I love in mac is the ability to reinstall its self. You remove a cuppale files and you just watch as the OS rebuilds its self its amazing. The problem with the lack of games witch I am guessing you are talking about is lack of games.. Mac has fixed the problem on its end its time for the soft ware complains to step up. its a catch 22 if more people how play video games have macs they will make more mac games BUT "gamers" wont buy a product that dose not have a huge library to choice from. I for one took the dive for work and for as a protest/take one for the team.

Apple - A Greener Apple

They are rethinking every thing you have to give them credit for a company fitting a company like microsoft and being the most environmentally friendly computer out thare is not easy.