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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2003, 10:36:28 AM » |
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i have a question about the cloaking devices, will others races have it too ? klingons and romulans already have them.... oh and btw: didn't the defiant class had one in the ds9 episodes ?
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2003, 10:58:20 AM » |
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oh and btw: didn't the defiant class had one in the ds9 episodes ? No, the defiant class will not get a cloaking device, the only defiant class that had a cloaking device was the U.S.S Defiant from commander Sisko which got a cloaking device from the romulans for exploring the gamma quadrant. and don't expect the romulans to give out cloaking devices for free  DOCa Cola
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2003, 11:20:36 AM » |
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*dØmn feds, to stupid not to give it back* hmm, ask quark if he has one for the defiant anyways, this is your mod, your the boss
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2003, 11:33:17 AM » |
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the federation signed a treaty with the romulans, which does forbid the federation to research or use cloaking devices. in exchange the romulans are not allowed to use cloaking devices in the alpha quadrant..
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2003, 12:53:04 PM » |
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Hmm, the Federation must be more nieve than we all think. How can you penalize a ship for something that makes it invisible...
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2003, 01:14:01 PM » |
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hehe  but this treaty appeared in a few episodes, doesn't it?
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2003, 01:46:12 PM » |
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and also about the difant it's custum made for sisko it's more powerful than the average difant
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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2003, 04:54:53 PM » |
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yes. i could think of it as a hero ships.. ohh, but there are no hero ships in Fleet Operations
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2003, 05:50:15 PM » |
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The treaty is called the "Treaty of Algeron" and was established during the peace talks which ended the Romulan-Federation war. It established the Neutral Zone and the restriction that the Federation is forbidden to research cloaking technology. But I think Nemesis showed that Federation and Romulans could be allies in the future. It would be logical, if at some point of time the Romulans would aggree to cut this part of the text from the treaty. I mean, if the Romulans could have allies to fight a bigger enemy (Borg, Dominion and what ever may come), why taking away the possible advantage of cloaking devices from them... and thus losing the war? But as this has still to come, the only possibility of cloaked Federation Vessels would be to incorporate a true "U.S.S. Defiant" into the game. But unfortunately, that's not possible. Except, you could make a cloakable Defiant that would cost all the credits und is more powerful than the average one!
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2003, 10:09:13 PM » |
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i don't think the romulans will be an real ally to the federation in future.. the romulans are a very prideful culture. They see every other race as inferior.. i think they only accept the federation as a POSSIBLE party which has equal superiority as them. They also hate aliens in any case. after the Orion pirates slaughtered and slaved them they fought for their freedom. even ferengi vessels are not allowed to enter romulan space and will be destroyed if they do so.. i think the dominion war and the shonzon affair have shortly cut the romulan isolation, but they will maintain their wall arround them and research and expand in the delta quadrant. This part of the treaty grants them superiority out of the alpha quadrant, where they are allowed to use cloaking devices which the federation isn't even allowed to have.. If there is no superior thread (like the dominion.. the borg rendered themselves pretty harmless to the romulans in history) the romulans will continue to expand and advance there military forces... till they met the ciadan, but this is Fleet Operations story. not Official Star Trek story
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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2003, 12:59:50 AM » |
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till they met the ciadan, but this is Fleet Operations story. not Official Star Trek story Alright the ciadan, who are they and were did they come from. ARe they better than the Romulans.
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2003, 09:00:51 AM » |
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there's an whole topic in the fourm about them
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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2003, 10:05:40 AM » |
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Concerning the Romulans, one should never forget the underground movement, which could be bigger than we know. I mean, if Spock sees the chance that Romulus and Vulcan could reestablish a relationship, this makes quite clear that Romulans are not always Romulans, if you know what I mean.
The Romulan attitude is certainly not only a "genetically programmed" one. Romulans are sometimes more human than I expected, there are several Episodes which show that and Nemesis is just a natural result of it.
But as there will be no TV show in the near future which could tell the story and as it is hard to develop that plot through possible new movies (as they probably won't be TNG movies), we perhaps will never know...
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2003, 10:13:48 AM » |
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unfortuneley i have to agrre with the move bit and i also agree with the part about the romulans
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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2003, 08:35:07 AM » |
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ahh i see master. so when do i take my jedi trials
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