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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2007, 03:00:20 AM » |
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The self destruct should be highly damaging, but only in a very small radius  |
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2007, 07:03:55 PM » |
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Agreed, but I REALLY dont want some online hotshot flying into my base with a ****load of sarbes and blowing up my whole frakking base, so I have to say ONLY THE BIG SHIPS GET THE BIG BOOM.
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2007, 09:35:30 PM » |
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True, A Saber's self destruct should only be damaging in a miniscule radius and it should have about enough punch to disable a venture  |
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2007, 10:56:07 PM » |
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Also, there is the small matter that shockwakes don't carry in space...
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2007, 10:32:14 PM » |
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Apparently Dominion HypSpace warhead shocks, Tri and quad cobalt torp shocks and such do now  |
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2007, 04:01:49 AM » |
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Apparently Dominion HypSpace warhead shocks, Tri and quad cobalt torp shocks and such do now It could be argued that they arn't true shokwaves, but waves of plasma/other energy forms... |
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2007, 04:33:45 PM » |
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About the whole self destruct thing:
A ship with Self Destruct is not a "flying bomb". Self Destruct is used to prevent an enemy commandeering your ship. It's a defence, not a weapon.
Therefore that's pretty much all it should do: destroy the ship itself.
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2007, 08:24:27 PM » |
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About the whole self destruct thing:
A ship with Self Destruct is not a "flying bomb". Self Destruct is used to prevent an enemy commandeering your ship. It's a defence, not a weapon.
Therefore that's pretty much all it should do: destroy the ship itself. Very true. I just don't know how we would prevent people from utilizing it as such should it be implemented. Would it be possible for the button to appear only when one or more of several conditions apply? If it is, than the conditions I suggest would be: 1) The ship is being boarded 2) The ship's engines are inoperative 3) The ship is under 1/8 hull integrity. Oh, and welcome back, Atlantis!  |
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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2007, 08:47:50 PM » |
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Nah! Id say have it all the time, just make it so that the sequence only damages the ship itself |
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2007, 04:48:57 PM » |
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Nah! Id say have it all the time, just make it so that the sequence only damages the ship itself that could work, but then it would render the borg holding beam useless, as any halfway decent player would just blow a caught ship up immedeatly... |
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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2007, 08:42:53 PM » |
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Well since the SDS (self destruct sequence) is a special weapon (technically) then have the holding beam weaponclass bisable the SDS weapon.
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2007, 07:58:59 AM » |
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Just a quick idea, that came to my mind when i read this.
In another thread we are talking about "heroes" for every race, mabe the feds get picard and with him a anti borg specialist, with a kind of auto self destruct when boarded.
It destroyes itself when it has a very low crew NOT when its just hit by a holding beam.
AS i said, a quick idea, what do you think ?
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2007, 05:54:52 PM » |
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Just a quick idea, that came to my mind when i read this.
In another thread we are talking about "heroes" for every race, mabe the feds get picard and with him a anti borg specialist, with a kind of auto self destruct when boarded.
It destroyes itself when it has a very low crew NOT when its just hit by a holding beam.
AS i said, a quick idea, what do you think ? that's a fantastic idea!!! |
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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2007, 09:29:51 PM » |
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thats a fantastic idea!! No SD in a borg holding beam, unless you've got Jen Luc's special bonuses |
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