Well peeps, we've has it for just about every other "major" ship out there now its the breens turn to be under scrutiny .
TBH, i think the battleship is quite a bit stronger than it should be, as it stands it is arguably inside the top 2 strongest ships in the PR pack. Im talking for raw power (offensive + defensive strength), i mean these are the same things that were literally being picked apart by allied fleets after the dampening weapon was useless.

So here is what i propose,
i) lower both shield & hull points to be more along the lines of a battle cruiser ( perhaps slightly more than a galaxy class (although even that is debatable))
ii) take away the phaser and replace it with another torpedo, to make a total of 2 torpedoes (3 if your feeling generous).
iii) here is the crucial part (although pointless if you havent done number 1), modify the special torpedo so it disables all systems except lifesupport, for a specified period, 5 seconds seems reasonable to me.

i bring this up, simply because i refuse to accept that the breen ships are that beefy. Without their tech they simply wouldn't be able to live with the others, as seen on the series.

Also may i take this time to say, "Bring on the Dreadnaught"  

well ryan has a point the breen minus the dampening weapon are crap

but u cant change it as at the moment it would make the Dom crap

Yeah i agree i do want the breen Nerfed but when the dread is out

Yeah i agree with you on that but the breen arent that strong otherwise they would have been a much more powerfull race in the alpha quadrant

Hmm that would make it alot more understandable but i still want the BB nerfed

I meant when the dread is released sorry if u didnt get what i meant

Well at least someone is on my side It helps he is one of the most important persons in FO development too



When we put a sovie vs breen in the balancing thread breen won this fight but it had like 4 hull remaining and u also have to take it into consideration that its special weapons disabled sovies weapons 2 times, so thats 10sec without fireing a single shot...
NeghVar vs Breen Battleship was where NeghVar won So be quiet
As I said they are roughly equal in strenght, some of them get the edge in different tasks. For instance:
I believe the Sovie would be better vs cruisers or destroyers because of its stronger phaser.
NeghVar is just the ultimate battleship killer with its very strong torps and special weapon
Breen battleship is similar to NeghVar, but with long range. So I believe its best used vs stations or **** like that.


Yeah they cost credits, so does the descent btw. But do u honestly believe the breen battleship can really stand up to any of those vessles? Please..... They are just out of its class. Im not saying it shouldnt be like that, your just overrating the bb.
Its closest match would be the phalanx, though it would still win comftrably.



Yeah my bad on that one, listen to Optec tho.....


Look anwser above



The supply requirements for this vessle are tremendous and its quite frankly not worth it.
BTW, shield and hull points of other battleships:
Defiant: 459 shields 153 hull
Sovie: 575 shields 192 hull
NeghVar: 454 shields 194 hull
Cahlaer: 339 shields 145 hull
D'Deridex: 422 shields 181 hull
Eresis: 307 shields 132 hull
Norexan: 423 shields 181 hull

So basically it has better shields than Cahlaer and Eresis, which was to be expected due to their cost n ****. Is about at the level of D'deridex and Norexan(with Rommies  having a lot faster shield recharge rate) Defiant, NeghVar and Sovie are way out of its class.
What I conclude from this is that the ship is barely on par with the 2 main Rommie battleships(1 of which u claimed in the Defiant thread is a waste of space). Also keep on mind that Rommies have the tavara to provide them with firepower when they need it and they get very good avatar bonuses with Mijural. Mind also that Rommies have very good cruisers with their generix ships.
Now where does that leave the Dominion? Simply the suckiest battleship of all the races, weakest cruisers but with the ability to mass out destroyers. Huray for the founders!  
But of course all of you are concerned about the above average strenght of the breen battleship. I mean ****, if they suck at everything already, take that away from them too Let us all beat them into submission everytime we play against them!


1 credit, which means u can freely build 20 of them - really a limiting factor isnt it Let me tell you something, if you have enough resources and time to build 20 phalanxes, so u max out your credits, nothing will be able to stop you. And I dont care how many breen battleships your opponent builds....


See my replies to Ryan.



 

well, you'r preety much right on everything, the dominion don't have good battleships, but they have the capability to mass destroyers and use them as torpedo bait during combat. They also should become stronger with the introduction of a new battleship, but they will still lack middle class ships, but i think that won't be a problem.