1) serow what up? what do you mean how do you think he scowed it up?
2) i think it duss we would have made alot more progress if we had planed beeter.
3) the dimacrats dont a gree and most of the warld duss not agree. thay told us it is unlikly that iraq has wmd. wich sould have made bush stop his invation and have the us intelaginst comunity pull up more information. the bill atherising bush to go to war in iraq was athrised only if thare was clear infromation that thare was a hi chase of WMD the un report stated that the infarmation that the bush adminastration put out was not a slam dunk and need to be rechecked.
4) the kerd wher free to do that eny whay be for the inavation is the kerdish secter that was pertected by the usa.
5)well the problom is meny have joned the insergisy be cuss thay feel hopless and thay are hoping the insergisy can make sher thay have a job in the fucher.
6) well all so the far and blinsted meda shares the same feer.
7) but some risk should not be takin.
get rid of taxcuts and get rid of alot of pork chage the way we do bisnes in gonral.
9) not only that we cant hear the conser of the insergisy eny more so it makes it hard to know if we are doing the right things diplamticly.
10) i dont agree tarist and uther pepal how can and mite grab power in the fucher could be evin wers for iraq and the USA/isreal.
11) i have seen tham get more dedly. its inposbule to say thay have ben witaled down sisn no one has eny idea how meny thare are.
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[=!=]RedShirt rebutal
1) thats true.
2) maby thare are alot of atonimes regons and womans rights and meny laws that we conserter vital we had to do away with to make sher we evin had a goverment.
3) thay quited down dering the election now thay have resommed thare normal levals.
4) i think you meen thay have a chase ot have a atomais kerdish state in the fucher posabule.
5) i am not convisted.
6) its ben about the same the last coppal of day thare was a slite drop thare wher 2 deths two day.
7) thats a cleer pluse
that can be debated. when we trised to inpose free rhites for wwoman we fownd alot of ded woman flowing down the river in the cinter of bagdad and we have ben cuting back womans rights ever sens to try to rech compermizes over the goverment.
9) thats true. but if the soonis **** of the sheites anuff we mite have ethic clinssing.
10) the ones left alive.
11) that depinds on if we can get a goverment to gether and keep it.
12) thats true.
13) yep thats true.
14) thats be cuss of the strong opasinson and chging tactics to the war, not becuss of progress.
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bushs link beween between al-qita and iraq -
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932/ - MSnbc
Staff members of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States testify as the independent panel opens its final public hearing on the attacks Wednesday in Washington.9/11 panel sees no link between Iraq, al-Qaida
Commission opens final hearing before release of report
MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 6:48 p.m. ET June 16, 2004
WASHINGTON - The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks reported Wednesday that Osama bin Laden met with a top Iraqi official in 1994 but found “no credible evidence” of a link between Iraq and al-Qaida in attacks against the United States.
In a report based on research and interviews by the commission staff, the panel said that bin Laden made overtures to toppled Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein for assistance, as he did with leaders in Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan and elsewhere as he sought to build an Islamic army.
The report said that bin Laden explored possible cooperation with Saddam at the urging of allies in Sudan eager to protect their own ties to Iraq, even though the al-Qaida leader had previously provided support for “anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan.”
Bin Laden ceased that support in the early 1990s, opening the way for a meeting between the al-Qaida leader and a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in 1994 in Sudan, the report said. At the meeting, bin Laden is said to have requested space to establish training camps in Iraq as well as Iraqi assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded, the staff report said.
No ‘collaborative relationship’ seen
It said that reports of subsequent contacts between Iraq and al-Qaida after bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan “do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship,” and added that two unidentified senior bin Laden associates "have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq."
The report, the 15th released by the commission staff, concluded, “We have no credible evidence that Iraq and al-Qaida cooperated on attacks against the United States.”
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Fred Fielding, a Republican member of the commission, prodded witnesses about their conclusion, citing a 1998 indictment of bin Laden that alleged links with the then-Iraqi leader.
But U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald of Illinois said that while such claims were contained in the original indictment, they were dropped when later charges were filed.
The panel's findings were released two days after Vice President **** Cheney asserted that Saddam had "long-established ties" with al-Qaida.
Bush says al-Zarqawi ‘best evidence’
President Bush defended the statement in a news conference Tuesday, saying the presence in Iraq of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who is accused of trying to disrupt the transfer of sovereignty as well as last month's decapitation of American Nicholas Berg, provides "the best evidence of connection to al-Qaida affiliates and al-Qaida." In making the case for war in Iraq, Bush administration officials frequently cited what they said were Saddam's decade-long contacts with al-Qaida operatives. They stopped short of claiming that Iraq was directly involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, but critics say Bush officials left that impression with the American public.
The White House had no immediate comment on the report's conclusion, but it drew a fresh attack on Bush from Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate.
"The administration misled America and the administration reached too far," the Massachusetts Democrat told Michigan NPR in an interview.
Meeting between hijacker, Iraqi agent discounted
In a second staff report released Wednesday, the commission staff said that Mohamed Atta, the pilot of one of the planes that struck the World Trade Center and leader of the 19 hijackers, never met with Iraqi agents in Prague, Czech Republic. That purported meeting also has been cited as evidence of a possible al-Qaida connection to Iraq.
“We do not believe that such a meeting occurred,” the report said.
The release of the reports came as the 10-member commission opened its final public hearing on the attacks. The hearing, being held Wednesday and Thursday, will cover the Sept. 11 plot and the emergency response by the Federal Aviation Administration and U.S. air defenses. Commissioners say they will delve into the actions of the nation’s top leaders during critical moments of the attacks.
The panel intends to issue a final report in July on the hijackings on Sept. 11, 2001 that killed nearly 3,000, destroyed the World Trade Centers in New York and damaged the Pentagon outside Washington. A fourth plane commandeered by terrorists crashed in the countryside in Pennsylvania.
At the final public hearing, the commission was planning to focus on the nation’s air defense, details of the plot and confusion and miscommunication among agencies during the attacks, hindering a response.
How al-Qaida became ‘fast-acting, poisonous’
“We’re going to talk about the evolution of al-Qaida and how they moved from one type of organization in the late 1980s to a more fast-acting, poisonous organization in the 1990s, more spread out and dispersed,” said Timothy Roemer, a Democratic commissioner and former representative from Indiana.
“We’ll be looking at the timeline as to whether or not we had an opportunity to deflect any of the airliners, and how decisions were made by the highest people in government,” he said.
In its report, the commission staff pieced together information on the development of bin Laden’s network, from the far-flung training camps in Afghanistan and elsewhere, to funding from “well-placed financial facilitators and diversions of funds from Islamic charities.”
Reports that bin Laden had a huge personal fortune to finance acts of terror are overstated, the report said.
The description of the training camp operations contained elements of faint, grudging praise.
“A worldwide jihad needed terrorists who could bomb embassies or hijack airliners, but it also needed foot soldiers for the Taliban in its war against the Northern Alliance, and guerrillas who could shoot down Russian helicopters in Chechnya or ambush Indian units in Kashmir,” it said.
According to one unnamed senior al-Qaida associate, various ideas were floated by mujahedeen in Afghanistan, the commission said. The options included taking over a launcher and forcing Russian scientists to fire a nuclear missile at the United States, mounting mustard gas or cyanide attacks against Jewish areas in Iraq or releasing poison gas into the air conditioning system of a targeted building.
“Last but not least, hijacking an aircraft and crashing it into an airport or nearby city,” it said.
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about that CNN link you posted December 16, 1998 at that time it was posabule be had some biolagical weponds. but clinton was smart a nuff not to go to war with iraq.
doing strick and comiting the us army to a ocupation are 2 very difrant things.
the stricks scare iraq in to geting back to the negoshation tabule.
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the cia link you posted
a sniped from it:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/spee...y_10022003.htmlWe have not yet found stocks of weapons, but we are not yet at the point where we can say definitively either that such weapon stocks do not exist or that they existed before the war and our only task is to find where they have gone. We are actively engaged in searching for such weapons based on information being supplied to us by Iraqis.
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