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I've been thinking a long time about this who's smarter the cavemen or us. Because they made tools from scratch and if we invent something it comes from all the technogly we already have. So what would be smarter.
For example they found out how to meld iron, but we could already do that and we found out how to make glass.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2005, 11:21:57 PM » |
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I would say that we are smarter socially and that Cavemen Were Smarter Insticualy
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2005, 11:26:59 PM » |
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krael, science is a pyramid of people standing on their former's shoulders, each breakthrough passes on to the next. i hardly should think that because we use that model that we should be penalized
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2005, 11:39:09 PM » |
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We have advanced faster in the last 10 years than in 100. Our advancements increase exponentialy.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005, 01:03:09 AM » |
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stupid question. peroid
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2005, 01:06:12 AM » |
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man eufnoc must do well at school.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2005, 08:07:04 PM » |
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We are probably smarter ,but who knows .history could be wrong
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2005, 09:23:06 PM » |
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To Eufnoc: Why post to something what doesn't interest you.
To anyone who does find the topic interesting enough: Well I wasn't thinking about the technogly we have, but more like are the cavemen more resourceful than us or are we more resourceful than they. Is it smarter to invent something from scratch or is as smart as inventing something from technogly you already have.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2005, 09:40:53 PM » |
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i think it depends, there are different kinds of smarts. for eg, if you & a caveman were to be stranded on some desert island, i'd put money on the caveman coping a lot better. but obviously in terms of brain capacity modern man is more intellegent. i just depends on the situation (& the person) i guess.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2005, 12:36:03 AM » |
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who is smarter president bush or a caveman? i'd go with the caveman.  |
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2005, 01:20:04 AM » |
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whos more resourceful... so cavemen can create create poorly designed tools and start fire, so can us "modern" humans, boyscouts in america are taught how to make fires from scratch, ancient egyptians used tools to shape rock with incredible degree. we can use our resourcefulness to solve seemingly hard problems where the only tools you have are the problem, ie what i mean is, the apollo 11 disaster, they had to create air purifiers, out of only what was in the ship, engineers had to figure out how to allow more memory to be accessed after protected mode was made, so they used a spare gate in the keyboard called the "a20" gate to do this. i think that shows more resourcefulness than the cavemen.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2005, 11:10:27 AM » |
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whos more resourceful... so cavemen can create create poorly designed tools and start fire, so can us "modern" humans, boyscouts in america are taught how to make fires from scratch, ancient egyptians used tools to shape rock with incredible degree. we can use our resourcefulness to solve seemingly hard problems where the only tools you have are the problem, ie what i mean is, the apollo 11 disaster, they had to create air purifiers, out of only what was in the ship, engineers had to figure out how to allow more memory to be accessed after protected mode was made, so they used a spare gate in the keyboard called the "a20" gate to do this. i think that shows more resourcefulness than the cavemen. & all of that knowledge comes from where?  thats the whole point in progress, you make something, teach that knowledge to the next gen who then make something slightly better. & when have you seen a caveman flying around in a spaceship? do you think it is common knowledge "how to create air purifiers or access an a20 gate". like i said there is different types of knowledge. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2005, 12:56:26 PM » |
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i was trying to get the point accross that we can apply our gained knowledge to solve problems that have strictly defined borders. its irrelevant about the knowledge of the user; magically give the knowledge of spaceflight to a caveman, replace nasa in the 1960's with him and his friends, and apollo 11's crew would've been screwed. we are more resourceful, humans now can adapt to most situatons that are presented to us. it doesn't matter that "cavemen" didn't invent the a20 gate, teach them everything about a computer, pretend they would be able to comprehend that info, they would scratch their heads and not know how to solve the problem.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2005, 01:10:12 PM » |
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the knowledge of the user is NOT irrelevent, since if you "magically give the knowledge of spaceflight to" the average person today, do you really think they would know what to do. point is those spacemen/women were trained to deal with situations like that, otherwise they wouldn't have been sent. it doesn't matter that "cavemen" didn't invent the a20 gate, teach them everything about a computer, pretend they would be able to comprehend that info, they would scratch their heads and not know how to solve the problem. its the same with a lot of people today, everyone has there strong & weak points. in regards to their weaker points, it may not matter how long they are given to solve a problem, it just wont come to them. so your spaceflight is a crappy example, because the people who are sent up into space are very carefully selected. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2005, 01:20:20 PM » |
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sorry, but the people at nasa weren't trained to solve that problem? they weren't growing up in nasa-school, their teacher going "Now kids, some day eventually there will be a critical disaster where practically everything will go wrong. when that happens, you'll have to create something that will clean the oxygen supply, and you will have these tools to do it in. now, write down the steps from the blackboard carefully, and keep this for the future." they were pretty much flying by the seat of their pants, using typical modern human ingenuity.
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