hypercube
Member
Offline
Posts: 991
|
 |
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2005, 11:40:28 PM » |
|
good reply baron
oh, and about integrating a socialist country, Alaska right? and that was really a great achievement for u huh? like 3 people for a square mile. Besides being socialist isn't neccesarilly a bad thing, the hollywood and governament has just made it look bad, so don't talk about things that you know nothing about. And furthermore, life in most european countries is SO MUCH BETTER than in US (according to unemployment, homelles, health, rasism and other statistics) So you should start learning from other countries, instead of looking down on them.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 .. | .- -- | - .... . | --- ...- . .-. .-.. --- .-. -..
|
|
|
Lt.Cdr.White
Member
Offline
Posts: 752
|
 |
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2005, 12:51:31 AM » |
|
Don't mix up the posts.  coolhandab => the US guy me => the German guy who likes his country and thinks there are less problems than everyone says  The socialist country I meant was East Germany (aka DDR = GDR). And the problem with the socialism in that case is the way the economy was handled. And the fact that neither the infrastructure nor the economy itself was in good condition. Masses of money went into increasing the standards in East Germany. In fact, you still get lower wages in East Germany today. The process is not over. There still is the "solidarity tax" which is meant to help with that. And that's one of the reasons for the weak economy now and the high unemployment rate. But still, it's better to have a unified Germany after all. So we have to accept the problems and work further on solving them. I mostly agree with Baron, although I wouldn't use such a drastic language. I'm more for diplomacy... an optimistic person. Concerning that, coolhandab was right.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 Trust your feelings!
|
|
|
ewm90
Good old dyslexic
Donator
Offline
Posts: 5467
|
 |
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2005, 01:24:26 AM » |
|
Seems funny to me what bad things u have to say about other countries, when in yours racism is still very much present, there are more fat people in US than anywhere else in the world, your leaders are idiots, you play policeman of the world,.... Just plizz settle your own problems b4 u start commenting on other country ones. If u really think that u help countries to protect liberty than u r an even bigger fool I already think u are. US helped NOONE if there wasnt any economic or strategic gain for them. In WW2 u only send troops when u actually realized that your allies might actually loose the war, so u might not get payed for the shipments u send them. Also b4 u critisize Germany and other "old European" countries as u called them remember that in WW2 they ALL were ALMOST LEVELED to the ground, all industry destroyed, countries in great debt,... The last war that was fought on your soil was the civil war, I suspect that is why u are so eager to go to war in other countries, people have simply forgot how it feels, noone remebers it and the only see it on TV. Hell if we help them and get some oil in return why the hell shouldnt we go to war, maybe Holywood will even make a movie about it in some years, so we can all see again how our glorious armies destroyed the enemy who is 50 years behind us in tech and is outnumbered 20:1. And how we didnt even have to engage them just slaughter them with missiles from where they couldnt hurt us, and when they retreated in civil areas we simply bombed there, a hospital destroyed here and there, who cares right? (in this I also replied for the statements in politic thread US sends their brave sons and daughters to fight for us, and how they die and blablablalbla) PS: That remark that your leaders are idiots is strickly of personal nature and nothing has been proven to proven my convictions i think are condemnation of the usa is a bit unfare i do aree that awer leader are not doing the right things naw, naw being the key word. the usa was an isolationist contry at the time gorg washington told the american pepal dont get invoved in over seas conflicts and america at the time did not know to much about eurip at the time or had to much invested, thats not to say thay did not care. it was dimacrat presadent F.D.R. that did not see it this way. with the atack on the peal harber was abule to get a nuff suport for war on the axes pawers. and as for naw bush duss not repersint the vowes of all the pepal in america. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ i cant emagin a atack like this on metro in dc i depind on my train sytom for evry thing. have it out must hert business. but i am haping to here the uks econamy did not take a huge dip like the usas did after 911. the usa enter a resetion that took us a good year at lest to clime out of.
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: July 10, 2005, 01:42:32 AM by ewm90 »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
PREATOR DEFIANT
Member
Offline
Posts: 4518
|
 |
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2005, 02:09:39 AM » |
|
Every american who has gone to other countries or to europe that i've met says we have alot more opportunities here, and freedoms, then anywhere else. Rather live here where I can get a job then some place where jobs are few and the economy is going downhill.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
  *^*
|
|
|
-=B!G=-The Black Baron
Member
Offline
Posts: 3034
|
 |
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2005, 09:25:10 AM » |
|
Don't mix up the posts. wink.gif
coolhandab => the US guy
me => the German guy who likes his country and thinks there are less problems than everyone says
smile.gif The socialist country I meant was East Germany (aka DDR = GDR).
And the problem with the socialism in that case is the way the economy was handled. And the fact that neither the infrastructure nor the economy itself was in good condition. Masses of money went into increasing the standards in East Germany. In fact, you still get lower wages in East Germany today. The process is not over. There still is the "solidarity tax" which is meant to help with that.
And that's one of the reasons for the weak economy now and the high unemployment rate. But still, it's better to have a unified Germany after all. So we have to accept the problems and work further on solving them.
I mostly agree with Baron, although I wouldn't use such a drastic language. I'm more for diplomacy... an optimistic person. Concerning that, coolhandab was right.
I didnt mean to use such "hard" words, but I get mad when someone critisizes "our " contries when they have just as much problems if not more at their own
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
*^* "My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm."~Mike Tyson R.I.P. Legend  
|
|
|
PREATOR DEFIANT
Member
Offline
Posts: 4518
|
 |
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2005, 10:09:22 AM » |
|
Thank god we don't
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
  *^*
|
|
|
hypercube
Member
Offline
Posts: 991
|
 |
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2005, 11:38:39 AM » |
|
well we still must admit, that some european countries have some serious issues and big problems, but i am happy to say that countries united under the european flag are mostly without serious problems with uneployment, crime, health and so on...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 .. | .- -- | - .... . | --- ...- . .-. .-.. --- .-. -..
|
|
|
PREATOR DEFIANT
Member
Offline
Posts: 4518
|
 |
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2005, 11:45:58 AM » |
|
All countries have problems, some more so then others, we could focus on each all day and say thats what makes your country suck, but then the other individual can do the same thing to you.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
  *^*
|
|
|
-=B!G=-The Black Baron
Member
Offline
Posts: 3034
|
 |
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2005, 11:51:54 AM » |
|
Precisely
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
*^* "My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm."~Mike Tyson R.I.P. Legend  
|
|
|
startrek47
Member
Offline
Posts: 547
|
 |
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2005, 12:08:49 PM » |
|
wth?IRA?they didnt pay their taxes, so they bomed them???
EDIT:oops sry that's irs...
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: July 10, 2005, 12:09:19 PM by startrek47 »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
startrek47
Member
Offline
Posts: 547
|
 |
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2005, 12:10:41 PM » |
|
oh and i just saw the last page, can we try to keep it in the political thread please?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
-=B!G=-The Black Baron
Member
Offline
Posts: 3034
|
 |
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2005, 12:23:45 PM » |
|
oh and i just saw the last page, can we try to keep it in the political thread please? Can we not double, triple, quadrouple post plizz? Oh BTW Al Queida took resposibility, I dont think IRA had anything to do with it
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
*^* "My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm."~Mike Tyson R.I.P. Legend  
|
|
|
Eufnoc
Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operation’s Tournament Staff
Donator
Offline
Posts: 4183
Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operation’s Tournament
|
 |
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2005, 02:18:13 PM » |
|
they did'nt thats what i said earler.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
coolhandab
Member
Offline
Posts: 528
|
 |
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2005, 12:38:58 AM » |
|
Look, in the US we've only had one major act of domestic terrorism (Oklahoma City, 1994). In Europe you've got an awful lot of "local" muslims, mostly trained in German mosques, blowing up non-muslims in Madrid, and now London. And you talk about racism being a problem here. How many americans are blowing up their fellow citizens? Not too many last time I checked ...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Centurion, ready plasma torpedos. We shall show these meddling humans how the Star Empire conducts negotiations." --nemo me impune lacessit
|
|
|
ewm90
Good old dyslexic
Donator
Offline
Posts: 5467
|
 |
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2005, 03:01:53 AM » |
|
thay figer out how did the bombing.
it was 4 uk sitosons of pakistan oragin.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|