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« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2004, 04:30:42 PM »

Hmm, I’ve read answers to all of those questions I believe... But I can't remember what those answers was. But I’ll tell you what I think.

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okay another inconsistencies, the sovereign always had quantum torpedoes, why in insurrection and in the initial exchange with the scimitar did they use photon torpedo’s? Quantum are 4x as strong! I mean if i was riker I would have wiped around and just unloaded the quantum magazine in the sona's ugly stretched face.

Maybe they where out of Quantum torpedoes? Maybe they where trying to save them for a sure hit kill? I mean, you don't just unload all your Quantum torpedo’s at an invisible target and hope to get lucky right? And besides, there where friendly cloaked Romulan ships around. (It's been a while since I saw the movie so I might be wrong about the Romulans cloaking) And in Insurrection, didn't they go up against a federation ship there? Because in that case they wouldn't wanna destroy that ship to much. And when they where attacked by the alien ships didn't they move through a nebula? Maybe the increased explosion power of the Quantum torpedo might have set something of.

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and if the pulse phasers are so strong why are they not eqquiped on the prometheus, steamrunner, akira, saber, and all those other advanced combat intended cruisers? I mean they deal damage to a ships hull through the shields, it says so on like Ditl.org i think, anyways i remeber reading about it some where.

I don't know what to say about the beams but about the Pulse phaser: It's true that they do damage through the shields since the pulse phaser is essential an onion of phased energy. One layer gets destroyed at the shields while the rest of the energy can continue and harm the hull. But, to equip it to all the ships in Starfleet would severely lower their combat efficiency.

The Pulse phasers can only fired in the direction it's mounted while standard Phasers can fire in almost all directions. Sure, on the smaller ships the Pulse phaser would be a good choice since they can turn really fast and because of that they can aim the Pulse phaser easily.

But on the bigger ships that's just not possible. And to have both Pulse phasers and regular Phasers would do several things, less space to use for diplomacy and the like since almost all Starfleet ships are not made for combat but Exploration. Less energy to use on other systems. And less energy over all in battle.


Uh yea... something like that.
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« Reply #46 on: December 31, 2004, 09:03:55 PM »

first of all: you are digging for unlogical things, besides Stratrek isn't real so they can be 100% all the time.

secondly: the defienat is messed up as it is. it is way too powerfull and even teh warp core is smaller then the one on a galaxy, intrepid or all the other ships

and i think that they don't use short burst weapons on large ships because they only have a straight forward arc. phaser beams have an almost 360 degrees arc.


so all in all i agree with stryfe  
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« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2005, 07:24:32 AM »

I agree with the Defiant class being illogical, for the reasons you stated above.

The reason the E-E used Photons with Quantums is it has ALOT of launchers for them. They are widely available in the federation compared to Quantums and simple to make.
 
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« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2005, 11:06:38 PM »

okay fine, but still about the pulse phasers i did not intend to mean that they should replace all beam phaser mounts. just a couple of forward ones. on the COMBAT intended cruisers, the ones i mentioned above.
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« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2005, 11:54:11 PM »

An interesting idea but the Defiant is enough, i'd rather it be decommisioned because of some fault in it's super powerful warp core so no more pulse phasers at all.
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« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2005, 01:43:40 AM »

I think the Phalanx has dual heavy pulse phasers, much much much more powerful than the four that the Defiant class was built with. If they survive into the phalanx ship in version 3 will be a mystery though ...
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« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2005, 02:06:30 AM »

Phalanx?
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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2005, 10:41:54 PM »

yes what is this Phalanx? and can i blow it up? cool  
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« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2005, 01:05:08 PM »

Go here And scroll down to Fleet Admiral Risner.
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« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2005, 09:31:07 PM »

Lol, it's not a real ship. Thought you were serious there for a second.
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« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2005, 09:49:43 PM »

yah, looks like that ship isnt canon...

The defiant is realy stripped down though in alot of areas, and its max warpspeed is slower than alot of other federation ships from what i remember.
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« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2005, 01:56:43 AM »

I think we can all agree that a ship that spits out weaponry that is the equivelent of like 1 Photon torpedo from each gun then the quantum torpedos, all running on a warp core alot smaller but for some reason better then a Galaxies is a little far fetched.
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« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2005, 09:07:51 PM »

You know, i think romie boy is just pissed that a defiant could take any current romulan vessel 1 on 1. Wink  
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« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2005, 11:39:48 PM »

the defiant isn't all that powerful, and the class itself has a tendancy to take alot of damage and then explode, not my favorited idea of a coffin, the defiant is ceartainly not a warship, warships have guns that point in more than one direction
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« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2005, 02:43:12 AM »

I think this Klingon here is mad because the Negh'var is WEAK ASS Cheesy  
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