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« Reply #90 on: November 30, 2004, 12:53:49 PM » |
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yeh but it did die  the way i see it is u never know for example say the bop has a good knowledge of warbird systems isnt there away to force the enemy to reset shield harmonics yeah thats it Bop decloaks fires tacyon pulse Warbird resets shields Bop alpha strike Engines Warbird Crippled |
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« Reply #91 on: November 30, 2004, 01:01:11 PM » |
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A BoP has 0% chance vs a warbird, it's THAT simple. A BoP simply cannot repel the amount of firepower a warbird has, a few disruptor blasts and it's gone, no chance.
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« Reply #92 on: November 30, 2004, 01:32:11 PM » |
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its not always about raw fire power you should know that and trek dictates this many times where u see much smaller ships beating much larger ones
like when the klingon dude whats he called Kor fought off 10jem hadar ships in one bop
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« Reply #93 on: November 30, 2004, 01:41:05 PM » |
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That'S DS9; In DS9 every fed ship flew around without shields and never returned fire;
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« Reply #94 on: November 30, 2004, 02:37:31 PM » |
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DS9 was a fluke I said. You know how retarded it is for one BoP to survive against a single bugship?
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« Reply #95 on: November 30, 2004, 07:52:50 PM » |
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I don't know about the bugships, there is a lot of contradictory "evidence" out there. On the one hand three of them smoked the Yamoto (?) Galaxy class at the start of the Dom wars. On the other hand a runabout nailed one in DS9 when its weak point was revealed by one of the Vorta clones. Those are type VI or VII phasers guys (compare to IX on Saber and X on Galaxy, Defiant, and of course XII on Sovereign). And I seem to remember another DS9 episode when Sisko and Martok are in the Defiant and a Kvort I think and smoked bug ships in one salvo.
So I think the bug ship is like the Saber, arcs, surprise, and skill of the tactical officers would win the day in a 1 on 1 with a B'rel. K'Vort would blow it away no question.
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« Reply #96 on: November 30, 2004, 09:25:26 PM » |
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Yes a K'vort/B'rel could take one on but not a BoP. And yes for some reason the bugship can be powerful or weak depending on the episode. The Galaxy class Odessy was destroyed when a bugship ramed it's warp core.
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« Reply #97 on: November 30, 2004, 11:30:59 PM » |
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the yamato thing was an exception it was before starfleet figured out how to defend against dominion beam weapons because they would penetrate the shields with no defense
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« Reply #98 on: December 01, 2004, 12:13:21 AM » |
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the yamato thing was an exception it was before starfleet figured out how to defend against dominion beam weapons because they would penetrate the shields with no defense yeah I remember they made a big deal out of how polaron weapons could go right through shields, but then they magically fixed that in the entire fleet in like a week. whatever. as far as ramming goes, I've always been insulted that ships can ram each other when their shields are up. the gravimetric forces from just the deflector should be enough to stop any ship up to cube size in its tracks, then with the shields added on ... I mean the generators might overload and explode but then there wouldn't be much ship left to ram, and the explosion would probably nail the rammer pretty good too. |
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« Reply #99 on: December 01, 2004, 09:49:59 AM » |
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The Yamato blew up in TNG and had NOTHING to do with DS9. It blew up right in front of the enterprise because some computer problem caused it to lose anti-matter containment. I won't reveal how the rest of the episode goes.
The ship that was blown up by the bugships was the Odessy.
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« Reply #100 on: December 02, 2004, 02:19:48 AM » |
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The Yamato blew up in TNG and had NOTHING to do with DS9. It blew up right in front of the enterprise because some computer problem caused it to lose anti-matter containment. Gee they must have been using Windows 2360 or something. Software seems to be rushed out the door prematurely now, imagine in 360 years. The Chief Engineer obviously forgot to patch it! |
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« Reply #101 on: December 02, 2004, 07:36:25 AM » |
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Gee they must have been using Windows 2360 or something. Software seems to be rushed out the door prematurely now, imagine in 360 years. The Chief Engineer obviously forgot to patch it! haha, dont you think it will all be linux then?  if I remember correctly the binaus had something to do with it (or however you spell it) |
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« Reply #102 on: December 12, 2004, 01:49:08 PM » |
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Star Trek can't be 100% organised.
Deal with it.
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« Reply #103 on: December 12, 2004, 04:01:23 PM » |
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no now we are f***ing up yeh yamato was a tng thing he is riht but the point is stop going off topic a kvort i reckon could beat a warbird
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« Reply #104 on: December 12, 2004, 09:15:49 PM » |
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You reckon wrong, a standard K'vort class cruiser cannot deal with a D'deridex class warbird. Theres no way getting past that, they both got cloaks, and the D'deridex CAN fire behind.
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