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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2004, 12:07:50 AM »

well duh... like you know its just like ewww with that info..... o geee i broke a nuther #^&* finger nale. ^&* @$^* !@$% &(*@  
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2004, 11:29:54 AM »

WTH you on about?
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2004, 11:47:53 AM »

you know what they were going to make aseires with sulu and the excellsior
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2004, 03:48:51 AM »

rodenberry wote one book ht inspired 40 years of good tv shows with no actual reason, why should nauces be a reason. they r out there because it helps the warp velosities in a warp buble creating a stronger warp buble which means more power wich means more speed. the other races that arnt super powes have naucels inside because it costs less and that is also why the defiant goes at only warp 8    
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2004, 05:27:03 PM »

Damn that Warp field geometry. Smiley

Ok, that's the reason for nacelles "now".
Back in the 60s when the "Starship class" design was made (later known as "Constitution class", noone knew of anything like a Warp field / bubble.
So that never was the reason for making nacelles.

In fact, the idea of protecting the ship from hazardous "effects" was rather the reason as those theories were around at that time.

That "radiation" (as you said, gamma radiation or electromagnetic waves don't get weaker in vacuum) may consist in particels that loose there effect very fast or it could be that it was not about radiation, but about EM fields. Such a field would have certain dimensions. Building the nacelles far enough away from the crew compartments would protect it from that field.

Remember, Klingon and Romulan starships in TOS had Nacelles as well.
So it might be that originally it was thought, if a ship uses the same propulsion as the USS Enterprise, it would need nacelles.

At last it is again about inconsistencies beetween TNG+ and TOS.
So when talking about Fleet Operations era, the need for nacelles would be due to Warp field geometry problems.
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2004, 05:28:26 PM »

dont even bother helping me with science project LOL  
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2004, 05:40:28 PM »

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Is my post too stupid? I find it rather logical. huh  
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2004, 05:42:57 PM »

the aucels were out there in tos because they could collesct Xtra antimatter in warp flight ot there
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2004, 06:33:01 PM »

Hm, maybe. However I thought the ramscoop was rather for collecting deuterium/hydrogen, as anti-matter is rather unusual in open space.
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2004, 07:23:20 PM »

oh yea, srry and thier nikname is bussard collectors
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2004, 09:31:59 PM »

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Bussard collectors or Bussard ramscoop, I saw both terms from time to time.
Just shortened it to ramscoop because I don't believe they were called Bussard collectors before TNG era (the Constitution class refit and the original Excelsior even seem to lack a ramscoop).
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2004, 09:35:02 PM »

Really? I think vents on the front of the Constitution class's necelles are clearly visible.
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2004, 10:04:11 PM »

But they look hardly as if they could contain magnetic projectors that could collect particles from space, I think. But perhaps they were meant to do so nevertheless. Wink



All other collectors looked different (NX-01, Constitution class, Ambassador class, Galaxy class, Sovereign class).

So that's why I thought, the refit does not seem to have it. For the original Excelsior it's a rather definitive no.

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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2004, 10:06:43 PM »

They still look like vents...
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2004, 10:15:28 PM »

Sure, everyone needs vent's to release plasma when necessary. That does not mean that is a Bussard collector, as it needs projectors that generate a field to collect the particles.

Perhaps there are some, but why are all others glowing red then?

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