Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

Check out this new ship for STO.
I like it. It looks badass. Nice sleek design.

NEW SHIP (http://www.startrekonline.com/ships/vigilant)

Hmm no one seems to care. Oh well i like posting topics about STO even if no one cares  :D

Vigilant Class. Looks like the Defiant is getting a sister soon...

I do care, I just saw it on STO before you :P It's my least liked ship so far seen for STO.

 :woot:

Looks like a cross between a defiant, and venture class. Valiant class if you wan't, but I think that one is a ripoff of the defiant anyway.  It would, make an exelent scout, or eraudi yard ship, but not as a battleship.

Yup, saw it too... I prefer only one breed of ship like that... and having the Prometheus as a Tier 4 vessel just smacks of sillyness to me  :blush:

why do the starships get slower ? comon warp 9,5 is something that even a nebula class can beat ...

I'm not a massive fan of the Vigilant Class. It just seems like a Defiant ripoff.

As for it's 9.5 top speed, I would assume it may be due to the similar issues that the Defiant suffered with it's own top speed. If I remember rightly, for the Defiant, the warp core is overpowered for a ship of it's size, resulting in it practically tearing itself apart at high warp. I also remember something about the warp core being somewhat inefficient due to the fact that it had to be crammed into a such a small space and as such the Defiant's top speed was limited to Warp 9.5 even after diverting power from other systems but then, The Defiant (and presumably the Vigilant) is not designed to run quickly: It's designed to stand it's ground and fight.

I like her. She dose look sort of too much like the Defiant. But, I would imagine she has got like 8 times more firepower on her. Probably has 18 forward pulse guns, that astern, phaser arrays all over, and probably would be modified to also fire plasma, polaron, and tetryon weapons next to her phasers. Next thing you know this tiny ship not much larger than a small cargo vessel comes at you blazing with weaponry and just annihilates all of these dreadnoughts and other powerful vessels. I would totally captain one.

Overkill, even for a Warship. I doubt the weapons array will be that much bigger than a Defiants...size is still a limiter.

You know though, I think I'm starting to see a pattern in their designs here. The Excalibur looks like a Constitution. The Vigilant, Defiant. The Oslo looks sort of like an NX-01 and a Norway. The NX-91001 looks a lot like a Sovereign. Basically they take the old designs and spruce them up a bit and say they're new? Makes a bit of sense, but why not some totally new designs?   

Either lack of creativity or their going with what works.

Too close to a defiant in my opinion and i dislike that design a little anyway  :blush:

well it would mean starfeleet did the same mistakes at the vigilants desgin as at the defaint design ...something that proves the lack of creativity.

Not necessarily, the problems with the Defiant were internal (Engines, SI Fields etc) which could be completely different in this ship, just because a ship looks like another, doesn't mean it has any of the problems that one did.

well at least it has same limitations at the warp engines

Well, this is what I call a cheap get away of a new class. Put some javalins sticking out of the lower hull and give it a new name. :blink:

 If it looks likes a Definat  call it  Defiant class   Version 2.0.0

Wow amazing. I actually stoped following STO a few years ago after I thought it got scrapped. I guess I was mistaken. I about wet my self when I saw the trailer. It looks like its going to be everything I hoped for and more. I still would like to know more about how ship to ship combat will work. I need to explore the site a little.

Probably a combination of both.... but people tend to bitch when you stray too far from 'normal' ship design. I too am guilty of this... especially when it comes to the ent.-J dear god may we never see that ship anywhere! EVER!

Thank god I'm not the only one who finds these "new" ship designs completely disgusting. Starfleet ships have never incorporated these strange curved, wishy-washy shapes; they have always been very clean and very sharp. These designs are weird and un-Starfleet. Leave the sweeping curves to the Romulans and the un-smooths hulls to the Klingons. Besides, all they're doing is taking existing designs and modifying them to be consistent with the design styles seen in the latest movie (which, frankly, I do not accept into the Star Trek cannon) and giving them new names. File these designs along with all the rejected 50s/60s product designs and get back to traditional forms.

Part of the probem is they're building on existing designs and up-rating them

Take the galaxy -> Galaxy-X class conversion. All it does is increase power generation capability, add a third warp nacelle to it's back, and throw a big-ass phaser cannon on it :)

The Vigilant has dual 12cm layers of ablative armor according to the site... 24cm of armor... damn... no wonder it looks funky.!

I myself  also like the old stlye of Starfleet ships, like the Galaxy, the Ambassador, etc, does anyone think the Galaxy Class in old mod , look better than the one in this new mod. I saw a game, wont mention the name, but all the ships are rounded and overlaping engines, just cant get use that, i like the traditonal Star Fleet ship. Galaxy Class refit now that was sweet.

Why does the Ambassador Class have a "short", WEAPONS RANGE, and yet the Excelsior has a long range, i know the Ambassador Class was a better ship then the Excelsior, and yet its stats are close to a Galaxy Class. Ther ship doesnt seem to hold its own at all?  this ship is better than this. The Ambassador is a heavy cruiser, imagine this if you will, H.M.S. Hood, a heavy battlecruiser with 5' guns, now that would be short. Cruisers are meadium, my point it should be no shorter than meadium range, how does a heavy battle cruiser have a short weapons range? back in the day, during ww2, the smallest gun would have been a 5' the next size you would find on a cruiser 8' and up, and so on. If the upgraded Ambassador Class was on parr with the early Galaxy Class would that not make her weapons range at least meadium, thats all iam trying to clear up?

The Speed and range changes were because different kinds of vessels got different uses.


 Say what you want about which vessel is supposed to be "cooler" or more badass, the reason is because those were chosen by the devs for those purposes.

  And no, I like the New Galaxy model more.   ^-^