Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

Fleet Operations => General => Topic started by: Champion on May 12, 2008, 03:15:44 AM



Title: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Champion on May 12, 2008, 03:15:44 AM
I'm very interested in this mod (been lurkin for 4 or 5 days), but I lost my armada 2 CD years ago. Therefore...I'm going to have to drop 70-100 dollars on a new one on ebay.

Before I do that, I have a list of questions that I couldn't find the answer to. Maybe this can be used to help other noobs.

How do games get organized online?...(I play EIR for COH and they use ventrilo for set up and in game)

How is the AI? (Very important if multiplayer games are hard to get)

How alive is the community...(cant really tell if I'm catching the mod on the tail-end or not)

Is there anywhere(forum post, link, readme) where I can see a breakdown of the tech-trees, Ship list and avatars before I purchase?... (since i wont get the game for days.)

How difficult is it to install FO on vista (Have read mutliple posts about it but cant tell if its difficult or not without everything in front)

Does the Campaign function? (Playable/some what enjoyable with the mod)

Is it worth 70-100 bucks...(Thats alot of money to spend on a 7 year old game... and its hard to tell just from Screen Shots if the mod is worth it...(EIR has tutorial video/gamecasts[are there any available?])

For whoever undertakes this task...THANKS in Advanced



Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Dominus_Noctis on May 12, 2008, 04:30:57 AM
That's a whole lotta questions  :D
I'll try to answer a few as best as I can, but I am sure others will also offer their opinions as well  ^-^

Games get organized in a variety of ways, so far as I know: any instant-type messenger works... as well as putting up threads on this forum. Even email has worked for me. Keep in mind that the community for FO is not very sizeable (thus it can sometimes be hard to find someone online without setting something up), but I am sure you will find a few people who are ALWAYS ready to play, if you plan ahead.

Simply put, the AI stinks. There are attempts to make it better (i.e. Redman's mod) ... and supposedly it is much better in v3 full, but for anybody who plays the game semi-regularly, it is a breeze to kill the AI.

I would definitely say the community is alive... though some of us may be hampered by schoolwork/jobs you-name-it from time to time. As far as I know, the mod is definitely not pettering out. Personally I know that in the summer I will be ready to game much more  B)

Dunno how to help you out on the mod tech-trees... it is always changing; you could try looking around the site a little more (I seem to remember there was one place on it where trees, avatars and ships were listed). For A2 tech-trees, there are plenty of sites to find; just google and you'll find it. Ships lists can also be found that way for vanilla A2... again I am not sure about FO (you could browse thru the gallery of course). The amount of ships included can be found under basic info and stuff... (just checked... can't find the techtrees and stuff anywhere  :crybaby:)

Difficulty of installing... well for v3PR there are some oddball difficulties for some people (I haven't experienced any that weren't due to my own stupidity though). Personally I don't think it's that hard but...  :shifty: For the full v3, it'll be a piece of cake (new compatibility thingy)

No campaign in the mod yet  :crybaby: That's the plan for a version after v3  :woot:
I sorta liked the campaign from vanilla A2, but it wasn't incredible.

There are definitely video bytes of FO online on youtube and the like (heck, you can even find a grainy one on the newest update from the producers... I think it is called On Screen)

Whether it is worth 70 bucks (ouch  :( ) is ultimately up to you. Remeber, if you need an Armada II CD "Either contact Activision or try to get the Star Trek Action Pack with Elite Force + Addon, Armada 1 and Armada 2 in it. You can still get full Armada 2 replacement Backup images from various P2P networks." (from the site)
 I fiercely recommend it, but then again, I'm biased. Maybe you can borrow a friend's to find out if you like it or not first? All I can say is v3 full will inject new life into the game (it's gonna be sweet), so be there for the party  :lol:


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Champion on May 12, 2008, 04:39:42 AM
Thanks man,

how do you contact activision (which department)...checked their site, couldnt figure it out

Can you elaborate on this
        You can still get full Armada 2 replacement Backup images from various P2P networks." (from the site)
       




       


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Eufnoc on May 12, 2008, 05:36:16 AM
$70-$100 buck's ?!?! WTF man?! I can pick armada 2 secondhand up in town for like $20 why is it so expensive other there? plus I can get it for free on limewire as well if i tried..

Cex.co.uk : gaming : pc gaming : PC Games : Star Trek: Armada 2 (http://www.cex.co.uk/products/Gaming/PC%20Gaming/PC%20CD-ROM/index.php?sku=5030917014826&name=Star%20Trek:%20Armada%202&mode=buy)

Star Trek: Armada II :: PC :: Gamestation (http://www.gamestation.co.uk/product.asp?id=101202232950445)


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: redmanmark86 on May 12, 2008, 07:50:51 AM
in a quick answer to your questions...

Thi game has no form of online protection so you cna use any cd you like or any downloaded version of P2P and online works fine...

The AI is extremely basic but that depends on the player and not the fault of the mod developers...

The community is pretty dead and your struggle to ever get an online game going, specially with the people on these forums (no offence cuz your all fine people but you just dnt play online or play at all)

The final version will be easy to insall on vista...

No Campgain...

anyway mate to cut things short, add me on msn and i will be able to help you greatly like i have others in the past... and it will save you 30-100 dollars easy.


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Champion on May 12, 2008, 06:37:40 PM
Both of those sites are out of stock...(70-100 was what its going for on ebay)



Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 12, 2008, 08:18:34 PM
Mark I resent that, I can't play cause of X64 and Vista last time i checked.


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Dominus_Noctis on May 12, 2008, 08:30:20 PM
One word. Work.
This summer it'll be different, I promise  :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: redmanmark86 on May 12, 2008, 08:41:33 PM
i play it just fine with X64... just stick the flop folder on your desktop...

obviously you need a flops thats been instaleld on XP mind, which i do have thanks to Smooer for sharing it with me.


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Smoerebroed on May 12, 2008, 09:49:14 PM
wahoo I was useful!


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Dominus_Noctis on May 12, 2008, 10:12:53 PM
If you want to see mostly complete ship lists/avatar lists etc...

ST-GALAXY NETWORK - Star Trek Magazin (http://www.st-galaxy.de/joomla/index.php?option=com_magazine&func=show_edition&id=7&Itemid=84)

this is the best site... but it's in german  :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Meredith on May 12, 2008, 11:07:16 PM
and for the english spekers of us http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.st-galaxy.de%2Fjoomla%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_magazine%26func%3Dshow_edition%26id%3D7%26Itemid%3D84 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.st-galaxy.de%2Fjoomla%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_magazine%26func%3Dshow_edition%26id%3D7%26Itemid%3D84) :D (I  :wub: google)


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Dr. Lazarus on May 12, 2008, 11:10:51 PM
Meredith that's awesome!  B)

And I love google too!  :blush:


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 12, 2008, 11:23:55 PM
i play it just fine with X64... just stick the flop folder on your desktop...

obviously you need a flops thats been instaleld on XP mind, which i do have thanks to Smooer for sharing it with me.

In that case I might be tempted to give the game a go again at somepoint soon just burn it and pop over :P


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: redmanmark86 on May 13, 2008, 12:20:31 AM
i can just send it over to you through msn like smooer did with me, once again he was very useful... its only 326mb compressed


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Champion on May 13, 2008, 01:45:26 AM
red,

what happened man...u signed off


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: redmanmark86 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:42 PM
mate it was 3 am in the morning over here, im not 14 eyars old, i have a job and have to get up at 6.30 am, i went to bed ages before that.


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 14, 2008, 01:53:25 PM
Yeah makes sense, Gimme a call when you get out of work and read this and we can sort something out.

Btw what you doing this weekend ?


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Jan on May 14, 2008, 04:57:49 PM
However, the FO information on st-galaxy is outdated in a way. I have to redo all of that once I have time for it. Especially the Resource System has been changed... I guess it's not worth it to redo all of that before 3.0 is released.
Anyways... google translation is quite a usefull tool and you guys are at least able to understand whats going on ;) (btw... the guy on the pic when you scroll down scares the shit out of me... ;P)
Concerning the TOPIC (^^) of this thread I would search for alternatives and contact Activision first if they have some copies left.
Maybe there's someone on other boards that want to sell a copy for a cheaper amount... 100 bucks... if you are willing to spend so much I would rather suggest you donate a part of that amount which is left over from a cheaper purchase of the game.
In general... is it worth to get Fleet Ops in any way? Absolutely yes! Hopefully, with the release of 3.0 in a short time (it's almost complete) the online activity in the lobby will increase. I'm going to be there for sure!


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 14, 2008, 09:35:39 PM
JAN! Long time no see, See your a mod now how's life been still  :borg: to people


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Jan on May 14, 2008, 11:38:23 PM
I'm always around dude ;)  Just not posting. Waiting became my passion... :P  Life's been busy but there's always time to have a look into the forums.


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 15, 2008, 12:33:09 AM
That's cool man it's nice to see that not all of us from the old days have completely left  B)


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: cbosdell on May 15, 2008, 02:33:49 AM
Mark I resent that, I can't play cause of X64 and Vista last time i checked.

It works perfectly on Vista x64 for me -- better than it did on XP.  There was a launcher patch released about a year ago on these forums that fixed it for me.


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on May 15, 2008, 07:22:49 AM
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That's cool man it's nice to see that not all of us from the old days have completely left  cool

Yeah..... ;)

We're all waiting in the shadows for v3 I guess :)


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Smoerebroed on May 15, 2008, 11:15:00 AM
I can see what you see not;

 :cloak:

huh?


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Jan on May 15, 2008, 02:49:55 PM
It's blue! And black! And there is a red thing in the middle and below of that thing... I CAN SEE A 3.0 !!! MUAHAHAHAH

Go and get A2 copies, dig m out of the last corner of your collectors carton down the basement...  :woot:


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on May 15, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
What are you talking aboot? Enlighten us please  ^-^


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Smoerebroed on May 15, 2008, 06:11:53 PM
don't say the word basement while next to me;


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 15, 2008, 06:20:21 PM
Lmao Confused now :P

But nice to see you online Barron it's been forever  :crybaby:


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on May 15, 2008, 09:44:24 PM
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don't say the word basement while next to me;

Yah it must be hard to live in Austria right now....
.....some sick people are living there I guess :S



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But nice to see you online Barron it's been forever 

Thanx dude, but I check this forums daily so its not been that long ;) Not much worth posting on atm IMO tho :(


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 16, 2008, 12:57:44 AM
Yeah that's true news has been stagnant for a while, But it's cool to see your online hopefully will catch you on msn sometime soon.


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Smoerebroed on May 16, 2008, 09:37:19 AM
well; I don't see that "<Z><I><X><X> luv you nina" msn user online most of the time -.-



Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 16, 2008, 05:18:22 PM
Yeah that's true Smoer I never see him on anymore, Methinks new email  :ermm:


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Jan on May 16, 2008, 06:25:27 PM
I really wasn't thinking of that   :shifty:
Disgusting and horrible story that is.... but it's off topic and thus has to be in another thread, I'm afraid.

Concerning to my post: I just wanted to say that one should get A2 to prepare for the big blast that is going to happen in quite a near future (compared to what we experienced in the last few years).
You should really find a way to get a hand on a copy.


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on May 17, 2008, 01:37:09 PM
@ acid and smoer: Nope I still have the same MSN address, I just dont use it at all tbh. Not much time :D
When V3 comes out Ill use it more, I promise :) I have school stuff right now :(


Title: Re: Noob Recruiting
Post by: Acidpunk on May 18, 2008, 09:33:48 AM
You better cause at some point we all need to catch up and just chat n stuff  :thumbsup: