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General => News => Topic started by: Optec on July 02, 2007, 07:29:36 PM



Title: To boldly go...
Post by: Optec on July 02, 2007, 07:29:36 PM
Hi there,

One of the features permanently requested by fans in the forums is a new Descent Class.
In fact the "old Descent" was a list-minute addition and we never found time to give her the model quality a flagship should have...

Until now!
The 3000 polygon baby will arrive in the final v3 release to make everybody pay who might dear to attack the United Federation of Planets. As you can easily see its not only a model redo but a complete design change, away from the kit batch to a unique battleship.

But not only the graphics have changed. The Descent got a complete game play redo as well. She will feature a new multi-layered shield - visualized by our new shield effects - and be much more endurable. You can also expect to see new and interesting special abilities on her. More facts on the game play as soon as they are fixed.

But now on to the showroom. Have fun!

(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6353/foscreenshot07070219304sk0.th.png) (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foscreenshot07070219304sk0.png)

(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6703/foscreenshot07070219340bt1.th.png) (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foscreenshot07070219340bt1.png)

(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3275/foscreenshot07070219361zs8.th.png) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foscreenshot07070219361zs8.png)

See you on the battlefield!


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: James Zolar on July 02, 2007, 07:35:06 PM
Nice look! However I find the nacells a little odd.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Overlord/Zeich on July 02, 2007, 07:44:05 PM
Awesome.  I think the nacells look really cool  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Jan on July 02, 2007, 07:53:26 PM
Sheeesh...what a battle ship!

How bad we can't see the ship in all its glory when playing from top down few. But she'll rock the battle field...I can feel it in my right hand.... ;)


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: The Old Man on July 02, 2007, 08:12:51 PM
Wow!  :thumbsup:
That IS COOL!!!

Respect!  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Krael on July 02, 2007, 08:23:39 PM
It's a sort of cool, but the thingy that connects the saucer with the rest of the ship seems a bit odd to me.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: admiral max on July 02, 2007, 09:35:29 PM
fab a very futuristic look fro the feds :woot:


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Dr. Lazarus on July 03, 2007, 01:06:03 AM
Quote
Make everybody pay who might dare to attack the United Federation of Planets

I sure will dudes!!

Those Klingon bastards won't know what hit them!  :guns:


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: ewm90 on July 03, 2007, 04:26:44 AM
I like the look alot the problom I have is the shape of the sosor section. I think a triangular shape would serve the ship beater.

The ship is made of right angles the round sosor dose not work well.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Fullphaser on July 03, 2007, 06:47:40 AM
I like the look alot the problom I have is the shape of the sosor section. I think a triangular shape would serve the ship beater.

The ship is made of right angles the round sosor dose not work well.
actually I agree, a triangular saucer section would fit more >_< but I feel bad now because that was a lot of work that Optec put into that.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: The Old Man on July 03, 2007, 07:15:58 AM
Maybe they thought about making it tiangular and finally decided to make it the way it is.
I agree that a triangular saucer section could be interesting - would have a touch of the Prometheus - but I like the new Descent just the way she looks.
It's a great and pretty menacing design. Seems like Section 31 had its hands on it.  ^-^


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: T-Man on July 03, 2007, 07:44:45 AM
I really like this. I can see the "oddities" some people have mentioned, but i believe that thats the whole idea; the nacelles look odd becuase they've got layers of armour all over them. The engineering hull looks blocky because its been reinforced. The look just breathes armour; that ship could probably take a beating or two. Its meant to be an odd ship; the Feds have never piled quite so much armour onto a ship before.

But she'll rock the battle field...I can feel it in my right hand.... ;)

Indeed she will. She will defeat all foes...
...wont be for the Federation though... >:D


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Mortographer on July 03, 2007, 12:27:34 PM
I'm assimilating that baby!


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Thrawn on July 03, 2007, 02:07:10 PM
That thing looks like a heavier Version of the Sov.
Like a Flying Fortress, and thats what what it should look like.
Only beaten by the biggest Romulan Vessel or a giant Armada of grim Klingons  :rolleyes:


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Krael on July 03, 2007, 06:26:47 PM
I don't think a triangular saucersection would suit her, I kinda like her round saucersection. Only that thinghy that attaches the saucer with rest of the ship that should be a bit smaller, I think.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: RedShirt on July 03, 2007, 07:08:58 PM
Wonderful job, guys!  Just, wow.

I personally don't really see all that many things to be fixed.  The nacelles, while otherwise being freakishly weird, actually manage to fit the ship, and I thing that the rounded saucer gives homage to other well loved fleet mainstays such as the Galaxy and Sovereign.  I personally think that a triangular or otherwise cornered "saucer" would take away from it's Federation-looking majesty.

All in all, a superb job.  Once again the FO team delivers more than expected!

-edit-

One small thing I noticed, however, is that the window scale, at least to me, gives the impression that it won't be much bigger than the Sovy.  I don't know if that is intentional or not, but I figure I might as well bring it up.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Optec on July 03, 2007, 08:10:00 PM
yep, thats intended. the descent got a little smaller, around the size of a sovy. like the defiant the federation battleships .. or escort ships  ^-^ .. are not that large


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: RedShirt on July 03, 2007, 09:33:33 PM
What will be the closest ship in terms of firepower?


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Optec on July 03, 2007, 09:44:36 PM
The Descent wont be a firepower-unit :) it is a unit with many fleet support ability and a hight durability. It will however still feature the dual-quantums and its firepower should be a bit higher then the sovys one :)


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Cpt Ryan on July 04, 2007, 09:31:02 AM
sweet. So the feds have effectively gained another support ship, albeit a heavy duty one?


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Jem Hadar on July 04, 2007, 03:08:35 PM
The old one was indeed kind of.... lame.
This is something totally new. I have to get used to it , especially the heavy looking warpwings.

Because of its massive and heavy look, it pitches out of the common fleet and gives it the feeling of a true battleship. Not like the sovereign class. * Ouu I hope I dont break it*

Now Iam really looking forward to the last big battleships.
Dominion Dreadnaught (my favorit)

And of course the borg, but after I saw the first ship you did .... I am sure the rest of the fleet will look fantastic and terrifying as well. ^^



Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: warp on July 04, 2007, 07:10:07 PM
wow, awesome  :thumbsup: :woot:
are there more other battle ships for these race and others races?
edit:
and has that also this?  (multie?( Pulse )(cannon) I don't or this correct are not but see img
multie ?... >>>see here what i  mean<< (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/Warp_ie/warp/multie.jpg)


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: TanEdos on July 05, 2007, 05:41:00 PM
YAAAAY! Finally! It's gonna be SICK to play with her!


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Fullphaser on July 05, 2007, 07:46:35 PM
wow, awesome  :thumbsup: :woot:
are there more other battle ships for these race and others races?
edit:
and has that also this?  (multie?( Pulse )(cannon) I don't or this correct are not but see img
multie ?... >>>see here what i  mean<< (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/Warp_ie/warp/multie.jpg)
Those are short burst phaser shots in an attempt to find the scimitar. They are regular phasers, just on probably a lower power setting why searching for the Scimitar.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: TanEdos on July 06, 2007, 05:12:31 PM
I'd like to know what these support specials are.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Optec on July 06, 2007, 05:42:35 PM
Most of the abilities the Descent will feature are thematically arranged around the topic "shields" :) We are still working on them at the moment, balancing and scripting remains. Most probably she will have a few different "shield patterns" to chose from. The Beta-Pattern is quite fixed already. It will power up all 3 shield layers to maximum, rendering the descent nearly invulnerable to all kind of damage for a short period of time. While in this shield mode she can however not use her weapons.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: The Old Man on July 06, 2007, 06:01:13 PM
Sounds like she will be able to break through any kind of defense-line in that time with this special ability.
Do you have plans for an ability which could extend the Descent's shields around about one or two ships flying right next to her? Or something like a shield-recharge?
I'm just too curious  :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Optec on July 06, 2007, 07:06:19 PM
yep similar stuff floats around the development desk at the moment :D


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: The Old Man on July 06, 2007, 08:45:04 PM
Cool  B)
I'm really looking forward to see the new Descent in action!


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Eufnoc on July 07, 2007, 12:05:23 PM
I have to say i think that it looks perfect the way it is, I like the armourd nacells, I like the round section and i hate the idea of a tri saucer as it would look like the time traveling ship. the only thing i would say is it looks like it can seperate like a galaxy can. can it?


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: The Old Man on July 07, 2007, 02:40:23 PM
Since the Galaxy itself can't separate in FO the Descent won't be able to do that neither. Me thinks...

But the two sections of the Descent would look much cooler than the Galaxy's.  :thumbsup:

Though the Descent seems to become a mighty support-vessel which makes me doubt that another special ability like saucer-separation will be available for the Descent.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: MutantHippie on July 18, 2007, 11:02:26 PM
i think this thing looks brutal and deadly, the kind of ship people will want to steer there fleets away from and as for the triangular looking saucer thingy i think it looks kick ass.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: nefrance on July 21, 2007, 01:17:04 PM
That's the best ship I've ever seen!  :thumbsup: This Descent class is going to be much more powerful than any Federation Ship, and a deathtrap on impulse for the borg. Doesn't it have a Tachyon Anti-Cloak Scanner?


What are it's weapons?



Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: nefrance on July 23, 2007, 01:29:01 AM
One more thing

What do you mean by "multi-phasic shielding"?  :borg:


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: MutantHippie on July 23, 2007, 01:37:07 AM
isnt that what Admiral janeway equiped voyager with when she went back in time to help voyager get back to the alpha quadrant?


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: nefrance on July 23, 2007, 01:39:48 AM
That was a type of anti-borg :borg: armor. I think you were referring to multi-phasic torpedoes.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Dominus_Noctis on July 27, 2007, 05:30:07 AM
One thing I wanted to know was how it would compare to "ultimate" ships available to the other races. i.e.: the romulans have the Tavara which is supposed to rival a borg cube... (if I remember precisely). I guess the question I am asking is how powerful is the Descent now compared to the Tavara or to the Borg cubes or even to the Dominion's... uh... I forgot the name of the ship (Klingons don't really count for me because their top ranking ships don't seem all that powerful in game)?

-DN


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: MutantHippie on July 27, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
That Multy Phasic sheilding was actualy invented by Jordie in TNG, they had to fly into the suns outer atmosphere or what ever its called using the said sheilding, it was an episode with alot of borg who Lore Commanded


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: nefrance on July 27, 2007, 04:00:57 PM
You're right

it wasn't invented by Geordi, it was invented by a junior officer.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: dan1025 on August 26, 2007, 06:19:07 PM
I got this from a canon website:

"Metaphasic shielding is a technology invented by Dr. Reyga, a Ferengi scientist, in 2369"

There was an episode about it in TNG.


Title: Re: To boldly go... This Ship sucks in Appearance!! :P
Post by: Diog on August 26, 2007, 09:11:19 PM
This is a Fine look for an Artillary Starship. But NOT a Flag Ship!!

I have a Much more Streamlined Design for what I call the Novell Class.

It has 67 Decks, and Transwarp Drive. Dual Torpedo Tubes Forward, and Dual Aft Tubes.

I'd like to send a Pic over Email, but here is a Preview:


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Dominus_Noctis on August 26, 2007, 09:18:44 PM
To critique it if I may... the nacelles look a little on the small side. Plus, transwarp drive? Aren't we supposed to keep to cannon?

In the end what does everyone else think?


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: MutantHippie on August 26, 2007, 10:42:38 PM
i prefer the ship the FO team designed :D cant wait to watch my Romulan ships get destrpyed by that thing :D


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Dominus_Noctis on August 27, 2007, 12:59:42 AM
I have to agree. The ship the FO designers made looks incredibly well armored and powerful. It looks like something you have to take seriously: a real threat to those not of the federation. It looks like the fed's version of a heavy battleship, excuse the redundancy.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: MutantHippie on August 27, 2007, 11:55:43 AM
im so tempted to change back to playing feds >.>


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: The Old Man on August 27, 2007, 12:09:11 PM
Well, I'm trying to find a way to express my thoughts...

The Descent, the FO-team designed, is what I would expect a Federation Flag Ship to look like.
The redo we were introduced to here is one of the staff's finest works in my opinion.

@ MutantHippie: You never should have stopped ;) Don't you know: "Damn, it's good to be in the Federation!"  :D


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Dominus_Noctis on August 27, 2007, 04:41:38 PM
Don't give in mutant hippie. You'll never join the... errrr.... light-side :ermm:

Romulans ftw! From the shadows!


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: MutantHippie on August 27, 2007, 07:25:16 PM
Well, I'm trying to find a way to express my thoughts...
The Descent, the FO-team designed, is what I would expect a Federation Flag Ship to look like.
The redo we were introduced to here is one of the staff's finest works in my opinion.
@ MutantHippie: You never should have stopped ;) Don't you know: "Damn, it's good to be in the Federation!"  :D

it is very tempting...BUT the war bird just keeps pulling me back :D..ya never know, maybe ill play evrynow and again as the feds.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: Dominus_Noctis on August 27, 2007, 10:03:22 PM
I'm not listening... LA LLALALALALALLLALL lALL lLALLAL *with fingers in ears*


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: RedShirt on August 28, 2007, 02:25:10 AM
Romulans are fun.  But nobody destroyer-spams like the Feds.


Title: Re: To boldly go...
Post by: EnsignRicky on January 23, 2008, 12:42:21 AM
I can't wait to get one of these surrounded by a fleet of Sovy's, Phalanxes, Defiants, and Akiras and sweep across a map.